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I can’t get into calling subs “magazines”. Communities is much better.
They should just call them bins. It fits the sites name and works thematically (a bunch of stuff on a similar topic thrown into a storage bin or whatever). Magazine just feels aggressively old fashioned.
“Bin” in the UK is where they put garbage, so I don’t know if that’s the best idea.
I wouldn’t mind calling subs garbage either lol. Kind of funny
A bin is just a container when it comes down to it.
Just call them “clips.” /s Seriously though, the aesthetic of Kbin is its best feature, but the concept behind the threads seems. I dunno. Weird. Lemmy feels janky and basic, like old Reddit. 💗
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Just a heads up, https://old.Lemmy.world now exists! (It should feel much better!)
Also, if you used Apollo for Reddit, Voyager (https://vger.app) exists for Lemmy and it feels right at home!
Old Lemmy is the best thing I’ve seen in a while. I found it last week, and it’s absolutely cured my Reddit cravings.
Also for Apollo users, the Memmy app is very close!
There is also Arctic by CreatureSurvive being worked on which looks promising. I just want my Apollo experience again. 😭
Also for Apollo users… wefwef. I added the web app to my Home Screen and it feels like nothings changed.
Wefwef and Voyager are the same app, they renamed it.
There’s also a Voyager frontend hosted on lemmy.world:
*cough* https://mlmym.org *cough*
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There are plenty of userstyles and userscripts inspired by old reddit if you don’t want to use mlmym. See [email protected].
shitjustworks seems like one of the few really good instances.
I’d argue that kbin’s UI is no longer a standout feature. Beautiful custom frontends for Lemmy like Alexandrite have been popping up left and right.
I think these long explainations of instances and federation are really not necessary. It should just say “pick a server and start browsing. You’ll be able to see everything*.”
“*If you really want to get into the weeds, blah blah blah.”
For real. Wanna try Mastodon? Make an account on mastodon.social. Wanna try Lemmy? Make an account on Lemmy.world. Once people buy into the platforms they can migrate to smaller/niche instances if they’d like. Simply things at first, active users will then slowly figure out the rest.
It sucks migrating between instances right now. I’ve found no way to port my subscriptions from one instance to another. All of your subscriptions are saved on your current instance as websites, but to subscribe on you new instance they need to be formatted ![name]@instance Lots of work needs to be done
Yes. Anytime someone starts trying to explain the Fediverse to someone signing up I want to put my hand on their face and tell the newbie right this way.
So long as the federation of servers is based on the whim of the few people who own the instances, the server you choose is most currently relevant. The people running these communities need to realize that cutting of groups just because you don’t agree with them or have personal issues with them is going to cause an extremely fragmented experience, alienating new users who don’t understand the landscape this ensuring nothing but monolithic servers and communities exist and no small communities will ever be populated.
Agree completely. It just makes it all sound much more complicated than it is in practice. I’m used to the fediverse now and my eyes glazed over reading all that.
Another issue I have with the article is that he doesn’t even touch on third-party apps, which are abundant and pretty damn robust considering how new they are. The fact that much of Reddit’s self immolation was directly due to their treatment of third-party apps. At least worth a paragraph in my opinion.
Otherwise, nice write up.
I am not sure I agree. It does not need paragraphs of explanations but something that says the server you sign up for decides what you can see, should still be mentioned.
I have signed up for multiple servers in the beginning and found quite big differences in what I could see because of what was already blocked. Or servers that have not federated with each other yet. Then I stuck with lemmy.fmhy.ml and well, I guess you know the story.
So I think it definitely should mention server choice may influence content and one should try out several in the beginning to see whats best for yourself.
I saw this claim and signed up for a different instance just to see if it’s different. Nope, it’s the same. Unless you really go off and find an instance that curates, it’s really the same.
They can have an explaination below, but for 99% of people it really doesn’t matter.
Unless you say what two instances you signed up for we can agree to disagree.
I signed up on feddit.de, startrek.website and lemmy.fmhy.ml. I saw many communities only via fmhy, which we obviously now cannot test anymore. After that I signed up for ttrpg.network and was missing quite a few communities, and yes, of course I can search/connect to them to get them to federate, but the point is a new user does not know that and will not attempt it.
This might be different now, a month in after the big move from reddit where there is more extensive federation, so your experience is potentially more valid than mine now, I admit to that.
There are also some quirks in how Kbin handles things that differs from Lemmy. Linking to Lemmy instances works fine when viewed from Kbin, but it doesn’t seem to work when linking Kbin communities. All fairly minor though!
It’s like how there aren’t articles comparing email options. We all just kinda picked an email site and stuck with it until something goes wrong and then pick the next one. No one’s really investing time in debating ones over the others or trying to convert others to Team Hotmail or somethin.
Yeah but we secretly laugh at anyone with a yahoo email address, admit it
I always smile when I see Hotmail addresses come up 😄
But a negative consequence of that was the centralisation of email providers.
At the moment, I login on kbin.social and lemmy.world interchangeably, since both are growing, and both are kind of unstable, but thankfully I can read the exact same posts on both. Will probably settle on one of these, or a different one eventually
You use kbin in the browser? And in the desktop?
Yes, and yes
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I have not used kbin yet. Is there any feature that really makes it worth using over Lemmy ? I’m curious as I want to try it out sometime.
P.S - I use Lemmy through wefwef
I think the main thing that makes its nice is it federates with both Lemmy and Mastodon under one interface. While Lemmy can post to Mastodon instances and vice versa, it’s not a part of the Interface really, you have to manually copy URLs
It’s buggy though and doesn’t seem to work properly. People have reported not seeing posts from Kbin on Lemmy at all sometimes.
I don’t seem to be able to interact with them at all.
I especially enjoy the x-eyed frowny snoos all over the orange background: perfect touch, and exquisitely appropriate.
-chef’s kiss-
