Meet the latest way the superrich prove they’re really, totally worried about the environment: $10 million electric superyachts::Electric cars? The superrich have already moved on to electric yachts.

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    1 year ago

    Electric boats seem like a great idea, especially with all the pollution the really large cruise ships put out. I’m happy to finally see this become mainstream. On the water there’s nothing to really get in the way of solar panels, either, so it makes sense to have them for charging.

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        Are you thinking he’s joking because electricity + water = zap zap? Because I’ve got some bad news for you about what boats have been carrying around for a very long time. Some underwater boats, let’s call those subs, even carry explosives that if detonated could destroy a city of 3mil+

        Edit: see Morse’s comment below for explanation, makes a lot more sense

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          No ! it’s because $10 million yachts for billionnaires are of course not good for the environment ! It’s greenwashing ! “well yeah i’m a billionnaire and i run an ecocidal megacorporation but look : my luxury superyacht is electric !” i’m baffled that people could ever think this is a good way to mitigate the climate crisis

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            1 year ago

            TL;DR electric $10M yachts aren’t good for the environment ; not building any yacht at all is the best answer

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                1 year ago

                I don’t think a 10 million dollar yacht, be it electric, diesel or diesel powered, is anywhere near a reasonable compromise

                • wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org
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                  I find them to be excessive as well, but since we have no power over wealthy people being conspicuous consumers the idea that they shouldn’t exist is unfortunately an unattainable ideal.

                  On the flipside, expensive toys like these often support R&D that eventually reaches more mass market production products.

                  People talked a lot of smack about the original Telsa Roadster (not getting into the politics of Elon here, what a mess), but the Roadster helped fund the Model S which funded the Model X, 3, and Y and ultimately forced every other vehicle manufacturer to get in the EV game.

                  When faced with situations out of my control I try to find the best path to beneficial outcomes.

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        1 year ago

        The sad part is that shit isn’t even close to a “super” yatch. It’s a very large fancy sailboat. A super yatch is a hole different ball game.

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        I disagree, but I also don’t have a problem with people or companies being wealthy enough to make or own them, either.

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            1 year ago

            See communist China for a primer on why it’s not a great idea to discourage success.

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              See fascist America for a primer on why it’s not a good to make success dependent on economic upbringing.

              Also if your idea of success is a multi million dollar yacht, than 99.99% of us will never be successful by that metric, so why want to uphold it.

            • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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              They literally have the world’s biggest economy and the second most amount of billionaires on the planet behind the US. I don’t think monetary success is being discouraged over there like you think it is.

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    1 year ago

    Regular sailboats have very low fuel consumption. Like 30HP motors used only when not possible to put the sails. Here it is not a sailboat, this is a luxury appartement on water. The carbon footprint will never be neutralized.

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    1 year ago

    The first thing you notice about the boat is the curved solar paneling, which is curved

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    Electric boats are not something new. Pre-nuclear military submarines were electric with batteries charged by diesel generators. There are some industrial boats that use electric motors powered by diesel generators. Same for freight trains which have been using that configuration for many years.

    A substantial generator is required for a large electric power boat, no way around it. It may not need to run full time if there’s a battery, but it would still need to supply the bulk of consumed electrical power. Not really any environmental benefit. Though there are some other benefits in terms of operating costs.

    It’s possible to go all electric without a combustion powered generator on a sailboat. That’s feasible and you don’t need a $10M boat to do it, can be done with any sailboat. Though one thing is a boat must have a reliable motor to be seaworthy. You’d still need a generator backup. In that article they state the featured boat does have one. It would have to support the full electrical load of motor, charging, and accessory so I’d expect it to be pretty hefty.

    The title of that article is a fallacy really. Sailboats are environmentally friendly anyway. Doesn’t matter if they have an internal combustion engine or electric motor. You only use the motor in situations where you can’t sail such as tight channels or doldrums. That’s infrequent enough to be negligible. Though I have seen people who own sailboats just motor them around all the time. You gotta wonder why buy a sailboat if you’re just going to motor everywhere, but people do it.

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    If it’s a sailboat, it’s supposed not to use motors most of the time anyway. Sailboats use solar panels and wind generators since they became available.

    Now, if it’s not a real sailboat, but a electric motorboat with a sail just for helping, then it does not deserve the environmental badge. Solar panel power is not significant enough to move a boat, comparing to real sails.

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    This is ultimately symbolic of how much electric transport is actually going to bring to the Solutions side of the board. The whole thing is a collective self-reassurance that no, we will never have to give up our personal cars. Cause unlike 10,000 years of ice age-surviving ancestors, we would perish under any such arrangement.

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    1 year ago

    Electric boats sound like a good idea to me couldn’t wind, solar and tidal power all be combined. Making me wonder why supertankers, cargoships etc can’t be doing some of that.

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      The issue is energy density. There’s a reason why boat tanks are ~6 times larger than a cars gas tank. That’s why they’re so expensive (plus batteries are much heavier).