• jobbies@lemmy.zip
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    I think people have forgotten what the point of a NAS is. Its for storage. You put files on it and don’t ask it to do much else. You want it to be quick so it can efficiently serve files to other machines. ZFS is a solid choice for this use-case.

    It might not be built-in to the kernel, but if it wasn’t for the openZFS licence it probably would have been. And its not like its hard to install it.

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    11 hours ago

    ZFS doesn’t require more RAM (or at least not meaningfully more), it just uses it if you have it. The RAM/ARC can be turned down in the configuration if you don’t want it to do that. I think on Linux other filesystems just use the native Linux RAM cache instead(?), so it’s basically the same thing as ARC, just less prominent? Also, doesn’t ZFS have RAIDZ expansion now? Actually a lot of this article smells funny… probably because they just happen to know more about BTRFS. Doesn’t BTRFS still have the RAID5/6 write hole? I wonder what sort of setup they’re using if they’re running it on a NAS.

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        Can confirm. I upgraded from a 6-bay to an 8-bay enclosure and added two more drives without issue.

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      Yeah btrfs maintainers still recommend against RAID5/6. You can sort of get around that by doing it via lvm and formatting that with btrfs, but I’d rather do it with native file system support. Fewer moving parts, as it were.

      My own decision tree for these sorts of things is simple: are all the drives in the array the same? If so, zfs; if not, btrfs. Energy efficiency would come into play for spinning rust or arrays of sufficient size, but the “identical or not” question has served me well for years.

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      doesn’t ZFS have RAIDZ expansion now

      He didn’t claim it didn’t.

      “Even basic tasks like adding drives and changing pool size take a bit of tinkering.”

      His claim is it is harder to do.

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        10 hours ago

        I was looking at point #3 from the article, which is more misleading in this area than point #5.

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      11 hours ago

      Leaving RAM cache to be managed by the kernel has some benefits, especially on low end devices, which is what the article talks about.

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      Yeah, the typical uninformed FUD with anecdotes of btrfs failing them 15 years ago when they did something that was explicitly marked as experimental 🤦

      For every person that complains about btrfs, there are 10 that have been using it since many years with absolutely no issues what so ever.