Lol call me the British museum
xD
All media will eventually not be sold any more…
Realistically, I don’t think anyone would come after you anyway. It is de facto legal. I’d say in the name of pragmatism, we don’t really need a legal framework around it.
In most cases, probably. And then there’s Nintendo.
I was just coming here to say Nintendo. They did eventually pull some titles back into rotation with vintage gaming devices and versions for modern equipment, but plenty of games have never been touched again, and they still insist it’s illegal to ROM them. Fuck that I am doing my usual Crystalis playthrough every couple years like always…
It’s conservation. Archeology is digging up what was once lost.
So finding a lost video game is archeology. Keeping it safe is conservation.
Ensuring games can’t be lost in the first place and that they continue to work in the future is preservation.All needed, but different things.
My hot take is all abandonware media should legally become file-share friendly after a certain amount of time being out of print, say 15 or 20 years. The original rights holder still maintains copyright, but if they are no longer publishing that work, and therefore no longer making sales, anyone can fileshare it for free in its original form. If the owner then republishes it, it stops being file share friendly. But there have to be caveats, like Nintendo can’t publish 2 copies of an old game every 15 years for like $500 a copy and say it’s still published. It has to be sold at a reasonable price.
I mean, copyright was supposed to be limited to 20 years, same as patents. I don’t think we would need anything else if we went back to that. There is no reason for copyright to last about a century like it does now.
Then how would Disney make money if they didnt continue being able to sell 70 year old movies at full price??? Stop being such a greedy asshole Dreamlsnd!!! Disney needs to make a reasonable income, and public domain was always a silly idea.
This reminds me of when a couple of lost Doctor Who episodes were found but the owner was nervous to share them with the BBC because he feared confiscation and/or prosecution. I don’t know what happened with that story.
Ok, truth, but I will still call it preventive archeology…
Arr … chivin’.
I’m going to steal this.
Typical.
Maybe even go as far as to distribute it further to the masses for free??
Unbelievable!!!
And to what end, at what cost? A slightly better (or at least not actively worse) society? Why won’t anyone prioritise the illogically excessive needs of the few over those of many??
Because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one or something like that…
Hey, I like the sound of that.
I’m going to arr…chive that
IT BELONGS
IN A MUSEUMON MY HARDRIVESorry Dr NAS, no time for love
I was thinking Internet Archive, but either works.
Came here to say this. Me and my wife were playing games from DOS and win95/98 days thanks to the internet archive recently. It really felt like digging up memories.
SO DO YOU!
Throw him over the side.
“.……no ticket!”
“(smirk) Fortune and glory, kid. Fortune and glory.”
In a way a lot of us end up becoming amateur librarians. When the big megaservers get hit with something nasty, or they decide to purge it all for AI datasets or something. (Idk it’s a stupid timeline anything is possible lol)
I like to think our fellow amateur archivists who started collecting such things for personal reasons will be a force for preserving meaningful artifacts of human experience.
Also, ripping your local libraries dvd collection for personal use is called archiving and depending where you live completely legal.
Yeah I “archived” all my “dvds”
“my”
I mean, I paid to access them through Netflix, back when Netflix still sent DVDs through the mail. They were “mine” for the moment.
“Ours”, comrade.
Where I live the library card costs 5-10 € per year and they carry blu rays, video games and e books. Needless to say I’ve now renewed this card for the 15th year in a row
Oh shit forgot about the library. Definitely going check out some movies.
Yeah that “depending” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there lol.
Also big depending: At least try not to make it TOO obvious that’s what you’re doing. Most library people are cool, (Source: know library people) but it’s kinda obvious when we see someone racking up the hold shelf with like 30-40 DVDs and CDs a week. LMAO
Unfortunately the mega media interests do occasionally try to pressure libraries to enforce copyright violations or whatever. (Like telling you you can’t photocopy textbook pages or something)
I personally try to just archive things I own, primarily, or things that are special and important to me, but that’s also because I have maybe 4TB to work with and hardware is insane again.
But there’s a point when it starts to look like compulsory hoarding lol. It’s kinda an open secret/ gray area, and a few people being stupid will likely catch attention. (Look what happened to archive.org fending off broadsides from the publishing industry.)
I know its not everywhere but where i live its 100% legal and protected under fair use as long as i don’t distribute outside my household.
Most here are just talking about one form of media, why not include video games like “Black and White” made by Lion Head Studios and not sold anywhere, but can only be found on archive sites for dead games. Edit: if you want to find these abandon games the site that I use is My Abandonware
Weird, was JUST thinking about that . . .
Or the absolutely legendary “No one lives Forever” that is stuck in a Limbo of Legality - iirc it’s not clear who has the rights to distribute the game, so it isn’t.
One of my all time faves.
I do think I’m going to start a retro game ROM collection in general. I have a sizable physical collection already, but there are just so many that aren’t easily available anymore.
For the early consoles you can torrent rom packs containing everything released for the platform. It’s not a big download until you start getting to the N64/PSX timeframe.
I’m STILL waiting for a sequel to B&W2
Piracy? I prefer the term preservation.
I prefer the term "Harming corporations by any means available to me is a moral imperative ".
An archaeologist is just a thief with patience
-River Song
I finally got around to hosting a JellyFinn server and there’s a number of useful programs you can use to get your movies off DVD and Blu ray. MakeMKV and HandBrake my beloved programs
I’ve been using Handbrake to rip DVDs but haven’t started using MakeMKV yet. I do have a number of blu-rays that Handbrake can’t seem to process on its own.
I can vouch for MakeMKV as well.
I had so much frustration trying to rip Blu-Rays other ways. Did the free trial and got my whole library ripped pretty cleanly and easily. Eventually decided to buy the software so I wouldn’t have to keep looking up and entering the trial key. There’s not much higher of a commendation I can give than to say that I decided to give them $60 I didn’t have to because it was good.
Automatic ripping machine has also made things so much easier on my end.
Indy was a grave robber.
Nah, he wasn’t a grave robber, he was an actor.
Harrison Ford is a actor. Indy the character goes around pell mell destroying sites for the biggest trinket.
I love being the only seeder for something only for the fact I can share it. The problem is, more people should be seeding it as well to preserve history.
Ah! So I’m a pirate and an archeologist. Nice!
Once it’s a ruin I can legally loot it…
