

I agree AI is useful, but an unprovoked personal attack in defense of AI — in a thread about AI exacerbating mental health issues — doesn’t make for a convincing counterpoint.
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I agree AI is useful, but an unprovoked personal attack in defense of AI — in a thread about AI exacerbating mental health issues — doesn’t make for a convincing counterpoint.


I’m not trying to defend that guy but I work for who is hiring when I’m out of work. I’ve spent 11 out of the last 40 months unemployed, and as a result I have no retirement savings to speak of — I can’t afford to turn down work. I’ve worked for Ford, Home Depot, Autozone, Uline (honestly felt so relieved to get laid off, that place was fucking scummy), the Army, and a shit ton of places you’ve never heard of. I had to turn down working for an insurance company — and I think they are pretty shitty — because they wanted to pay 1/3 what I’m making today. And I make fucking nothing compared to Silicon Valley.
engineers work for the company, not for users.
On the other hand I’ve never made any bones about the fact that I work to develop good products and if someone can make money on that good for them, but I fight for the best design for end users I can. I have mostly developed internal software, though, and no one but me cares about internal users. You can tell because everywhere you go, front line workers are bitching about garbage software.
I might be wrong about the best solution, but I refuse to be evil. Even at Uline, I worked to make better software for the workers. But what a bunch of assholes.


Obama started this war crime 147 years ago and we’re still fighting it today.


I glanced at the title and just vibe-read the article.


Well either they kicked a dude into a hole that was intended for some other purpose and then they had to fish out the remains to return it to its original purpose… or that dude had a soft landing (relative to rock) at the bottom of their “kicking people down” hole.


Yes, but it’s also the natural conclusion to “so technically the rules say…”


AI can’t scheme or misbehave. The people selling it are 100% lying about what AI can do, but that doesn’t mean the people taking about how terrible AI is aren’t full of shit on occasion as well. There is so much misinformation oh both sides and combined with how strong opinions are on both sides conversation is borderline pointless.


What? No!
That’s a list of terrible passwords.


Yeah, but forever takes so long.
That’s pretty freaking awesome, mate. Thank you!
Possibly but the main thing we find useful is the OTP generation. This means we can both use shared accounts without having to ask the other for a code. That’s probably an edge case, and not enough sites support it, but it’s really nice for the ones that do.
I doubt that is available in self-hosting but I’d be happy to be wrong about that. I have a raspberry pi serving up a couple of local things and I could register a domain if I had a use case for connectivity outside the house.


I see by your lack of pluralization that you’ve realized there’s only one person here and everyone else is bots. However through inference and deduction, you are therefore also a bot. I have good reason to believe I am the non-bot though I wonder if I could know for certain…
That was a lot of effort for a typo joke…


The major thing AI lacks is continuous parallel “prompting” through a variety of channels including sensory, biofeedback, and introspection / meta-thought about internal state and thinking.
AI currently transforms a given input into an output. However it cannot accept new input in the middle of an output. It can’t evaluate the quality of its own reasoning except though trial and error.
If you had 1000 AIs operating in tandem and fed a continuous stream of prompts in the form of pictures, text, meta-inspection, and perhaps a simulation of biomechanical feedback with the right configuration, I think it might be possible to create a system that is a hell of an approximation of sentience. But it would be slow and I’m not sure the result would be any better than a human — you’d introduce a lot of friction to the “thought” process. And I have to assume the energy cost would be pretty enormous.
In the end it would be a cool experiment to be part of, but I doubt that version would be worth the investment.
TBH, $10/year is a small price not to have to get my wife to change again after lastpass. She is not equipped to deal with enshittification.


Anyone confuses likely doesn’t care in the first place.


Python allows you to focus on a single concept in isolation (building on what you’ve already learned, of course). JS has a bunch of other stuff mixed in. Like the DOM. Interacting with the DOM is necessary for any browser code. You can hide it with abstractions and boilerplate, but it’s always going to surface in error messages. Debugging JS can be quite a bit harder than other languages.
Caveat: beginner JS is many years behind me. It may not be as bad as corporate code full of react and angular and all kinds of requirements.


Probably JS as the fact that every computer has by default everything you need to execute JS. But there is a bunch of browser stuff you have to worry about before you can do anything with it. I’m not sure how you learn JS before html.
With Python you can do simple command line stuff without having to really know anything else. You can learn one concept at a time.
That being said, people have a lot of familiarity with browsers and it might feel less abstract. JS might a better choice for demystifying coding. Python is probably a better choice for accomplishing anything useful.


I appreciate the context, thank you.


Was he a bad dude? I thought OF was a way for sex workers to have greater agency. If karma is looking for suggestions, I have a long list of people more deserving in my estimation. That said, I don’t know this person and maybe he was bad, too.
Oh look. We have to turn to foreign sources for factual information about our own country. Like a shithole country that or administration has complained about. This whole administration is a domestic enemy and existential threat. Every single one of them should be tried for treason.
They should absolutely be terrified of a democratic administration, as I saw in another thread today — though they shouldn’t be because Democrats will do fuck all in the name of reconciliation.You don’t fucking reconcile with Nazis. You put them in prison. Forever.