• charliespider@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Just curious…

    Since communism isn’t illegal in western countries, and there’s literally nothing stopping a bunch of comrades from starting a business where the workers maintain control over the means of production, where are all the successful communist companies?

    Like if communism is sooooo superior to capitalism, why aren’t communist operated businesses dominating the world?

    New businesses are started all the time, so you would think there would be at least one successful communist company. Where are they?

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      1 year ago

      Capitalism doesn’t allow for socialism to exist within it. Under capitalism only cut throat business flourish. Trying to have an island of communism thrive on a sea of capitalism is like trying to plant apples in the desert. Only when the entire system becomes communist, it can thrive since capitalism is made for only to capitalism to make it. A company that values people over profits will be drive out of business by one that sells cheaper products by cutting all benefits to their employees and by paying them shit. That is why changing the whole system is the only way to go forward.

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      1 year ago

      “A communist company”

      Do you ever think before you say? Please at least do some fucking research before you say stupid shit like this. It might help you in the future.

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      This is the epitome of

      “iPhone? Capitalism! Ugg uhh! GOOD!”

      “No iPhone! COMMUNISM! Ugg uhh! NO GOOD!”

      You have no fucking clue what words mean. Communism describes an economic system of nations (typically). It doesn’t describe companies. Nor does capitalism.

      What you’re asking about (you’re not really asking for anything- you’re just a terrible right wing troll) is called a worker co-op. Which do exist sometimes and a few have been successful.

      But that’s irrelevant because we’re discussing a system under which rich guy’s whose family stole land/wealth (primitive accumulation! Read!) does NOT get to be the Lord of his little fiefdom. His stolen, and do not think for a second it’s not stolen, assets/wealth/land would be taken back and held in common, in a state most likely, and workers would use these resources, factories, whatever, to produce commodities not for profit but for the betterment of society as a whole. Surplus value, profits, would be reinvested into society, not hoarded by capitalist dude or his family.

      So, long story short, nothing changes. Except for one thing. The thieves at the top who stole are brought back down to earth. Possibly executed depending on their crimes coughEloncough or forcefully made a worker again- OH NO, THE HORRORS!

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      1 year ago

      Since communism isn’t illegal in western countries, and there’s literally nothing stopping a bunch of comrades from starting a business where the workers maintain control over the means of production,

      Yes, this is called China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, North Korea, and the former USSR (and many others)

      E: also not being snarky, mondragon and basically all co-ops are working as you suggest. Did you not know what a worker co-op was??