• nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    No, no. The vast majority of people who are interested and good at computer science are men or male. It is the truth. The world is also replete with women who say things like this, but basically can only write hello world to the console.

    But exceptions exist and people who don’t fit the common stereotype absolutely deserve to be allowed to do what they’re good at.

      • nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        Lol, I’m sure. They invented the integrated circuit, the instruction set, and most modern day programming languages. But all of their achievements were hidden by mean, jealous men.

        Typically, smart and powerful people have the wherewithal and know-how to not let that happen, let alone en masse. That’s part of why we might consider them smart.

        The reality is that there were many female computer operators. Engineers and inventors, not so much. A few exceptions, but they were, as I have said, the exceptions.

      • EhList@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        1 year ago

        Women were not the backbone of computer engineering. They were the ones who did the computing before we had machines that could do so quickly.

        Engineering refers to designing the components and while some women have contributed to this field the overwhelming of the design of parts has been done by men.

        • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          So you learned enough about the history of computing to make claims like this, but not enough to know that practically all the first programmers were female and some even pioneered theory, techniques, and languages? For example Grace Hopper, who you are erasing from history here.

          I call bullshit. Either you purposely ignore these facts, or your sexism prevented them from being remembered when you learned them.

          • EhList@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            My point is that engineering us a specific job with a specific definition and the ENGINEEERS were not all women.

            I never said anything about any other aspect of computing so the rest of your post is just a straw man you added for no reason.

            • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              There is a reason several people have pointed out facts to you. You clearly want to deny the fact that women were very much a part of computer ENGINEERING

              • EhList@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                No Im denying they were the MAJORITY of computer engineers. This is an easily verifiable fact. You can look it up with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

                • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  You’re just being pedantic. Women were extremely pivotal in the creation of computing [insert more specific subfields if you want, doesn’t change anything]. Your comments certainly all read as refuting this. It’s not controversial to the non-incel community.

                  • EhList@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Im only talking about computer engineering no other aspect of computing. It only seems like Im being pedantic because it has taken you this long to realize the point I have been making from the start which to be clear is entirely uncontroversial in history circles.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          Grace Hopper literally invented the first software compiler.

          If you dismiss software engineering as a form of engineering, then you have no qualifications to be an engineer and no business even commenting.

          • EhList@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Im not denying that some women played a part. Im objecting to the claim they were the majority. They were not the MAJORITY

            • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Why do you think the human computers weren’t the majority of people creating the first electronic computers?

    • SeaJ@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Motherfucker, women used to be the vast majority of programmers. A woman was the one who led the team that wrote the code to get to the moon. She also coined the term ‘software engineer.’ So don’t give us that bullshit that the vast majority that are good at computer science are men. And no, the world is not replete with women who claim they can choose but can only print to the console. Where the fuck have you come across that?

      People like you are the main barrier for women getting into programming.

      • nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Absolute moron. I knew damn-well that you were going to mention Hamilton at some point because every simping imbecile does. Every single exception to the general rule, that males are more interested in IT in general, is proclaimed across the world as though it disproves said rule. Look, these women are smart, capable and deserve all the success they’ve attained. That does not mean there is not a general rule.

        People who are generally smart and capable should not care about my approval to enter into programming. They’d do it because they love it, not for someone’s approval. Frankly, if some woman doesn’t enter into programming because of something some rando like me said online, I very much doubt she was much interested in it to begin with.