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qaz@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Web3 is here and it's glorious

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Web3 is here and it's glorious

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qaz@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de
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    It’s also centralized

    Nothing about lightning is centralized, unless you think bitcoin itself is centralized.

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      https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/s3tvox/is_lightning_network_decentralized_why/

      Great explanation by someone who isn’t a maximalists. Sorry but yes it is.

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        Haha. Fees are high and it’s impossible to open a channel because of that? That’s beyond stupid…

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          No, it’s centered around large nodes, that’s the point they’re making.

          Over 50% of the network’s capacity in the hands of 5 entities?

          https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/vo86ki/over_half_of_all_lightning_network_capacity_is/

          Shit’s decentralized as fuck yo!

          Heck, Bitcoin itself had the majority of its hashrate coming from a dictatorship where the state needs to have a representative in all major companies… One move and the Chinese government had control over the network.

          #decentralization

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            Nobody is forcing you to use the big nodes. Saying lightning is centralized because of that is like saying bitcoin is centralized because exchanges hold coins.

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              Did you ignore the second part of what I said? 🤔

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                Yes, because it is even more wrong. One of the most mobile industries in the world that seeks cheap power concentrates where that cheap power is available. China ban bitcoin, miners moved away. Miners can always simply move somewhere else. That already happened and you don’t even know it.

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                  Ok, so you ignored what I said.

                  China could have seized all mining equipment just by deciding to nationalize the industry instead of banning it, boom, 51%+ of the hashrate in the hands of the Chinese government. What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time? Fuck dick, as long as the price goes up, who cares about the tech behind it?

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                    could have

                    Yes, and the sky could fall on our heads.

                    It didn’t happen, and it can’t happen any more.

                    What were Bitcoin maximalists saying at the time

                    They always knew miners are super mobile.

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              Eh… Lemmy has too many computer literate users for Bitcoin maximalists and crypto to have taken a hold on the place, funny that!

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