i’m doing it because I want to make the fediverse more friendly place, in hopes of making it more welcoming for new users, and the nicer place in general. But I wonder how much is just less bots.

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      This is one thing I’ve been trying to figure out, I keep hearing this a lot. What exactly is different with the upvotes and downvotes? Do they not bury comments and posts or something? Serious question just trying to be informed

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        At least in the app I’m using there is no cumulative score for your upvotes/downvotes, so people don’t care about it.

        Also comments don’t seem to get hidden due to downvotes thankfully. That was always a stupid system.

        Tbh I wish that the comment voting system didn’t exist, or that to downvote you had to write a legit reason why, and everyone could see the votes and reasons. Shit reasons would take away your ability to downvote temporarily, extending further the more you do it. Too many people just use it as a disagree button.

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          Also comments don’t seem to get hidden due to downvotes thankfully. That was always a stupid system.

          i hate this so much about reddit. a lot of users abuse this system so much to hide your comments so nobody sees them anymore… they just vanish because usually users don’t click unhide.

          even if you are nice in the comment and are in the right… if someone dislikes your comment they can pull out their twink accounts and downvote it. and if a comment is at around -3 to -4 or similiar, most users just click downvote without actually reading it… because “others have downvoted that comment so it has to be right. downvote click

          its just so toxic on reddit…

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            Doesn’t even have to be downvoted heavily. If you bash the admins/powermods, your comment gets magically collapsed, even if it’s near the top. I don’t know how that happens.

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              admins and mods working for reddit (the paid ones) have “tools” to do such things. thats also how /u/spez manipulated user comments who said fuck spez etc. - also how they manipulate /r/place currently. they just paint a huge black square or checkerboard over images they dislike.

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          See, I don’t see a problem with using it as a disagree button, especially since the count is useless on Lemmy. My client (Jerboa) does give a cumulative score, but again, in the absence of The Algorithm™️ it’s just notational. Sometimes a shit take is just a shit take, and it’s not worth fighting with trolls. Downvote and move on.

          I will say I 100% agree that I like that the up/down ratio doesn’t auto-hide a comment. It was too easy to manipulate the system on Reddit, and sometimes a (genuinely) unpopular opinion was insightful.

          Though. I really would like to know who that one user is that seems to just downvote everything. I think almost everything I’ve seen lately on Lemmy seems to have exactly one downvote. I like to imagine there’s just one super angry dude like NO on everything.

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        Sorta yeah. Comments seem to mostly be sorted by new to old. Upvotes do matter… But not as much as ‘Boosting’ does to push content to your frontpage.

        Why everyone just doesn’t hit boost is beyond me but eh. It feels like boost is meant for those especially relevant and nice posts you definitely want others to see vs casually clicking.

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        From my new user experience it seems like active comments get placed higher regardless of upvoted. i.e. comments that are still being commented on or new ones.

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      I don’t really feel like they meant shit on reddit either. As far as I know high karma doesn’t give you any additional benefits but perhaps bragging rights if it’s something one is proud of.