What is Grayjay?
Grayjay is a cutting-edge app that serves as a video player and source aggregator. It allows you to stream and organize videos from various sources, providing a unified platform for your entertainment needs.
It’s mostly used as a YouTube frontend^. However, it is now launching as a desktop app for Linux, Mac and Windows.
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Why can’t they be a website than an app for Dekstop?
Also understood that they’re not open-source but are they privacy-respecting?
Edit: Went through their privacy policy and seems they’re privacy-focused. I will be trying their app now.
Yeah if you know who’s behind Futo (Louis Rossman) you will know he fights very hard for better privacy across the board among other things that are better for us consumers.
Edit: Futo being the company behind this app and other privacy respective apps.
I am working on an alternative
Spill the beans!
It’s called “going outside” now in alpha.
I really wish there was a truly open source version of GrayJay because GrayJay is actually Not OpenSource
Yikes. I’ll be sticking with NewPipe and other FOSS apps.
It is open source, just not free open source
Typically licenses not OSI approved are referred to as “Source available” rather than “Open source”. This is one reason FUTO (who make Grayjay) refer to their license as “Source first” and not “Open Source” (though they did call it that for a while before clarifying and switching to the new term).
My take: OSI needs to include noncommercial licenses. Companies like Mongo and Redis have to end up creating their own licenses with GPL poison pills just to survive commercial use, why not create a system where companies that want to be, and support, an “open source” ecosystem can thrive?
Open Source existed before OSI.
Proprietary source-available software existed before open source software, and that’s what these restricted licenses are. The FOSS community does not appreciate businesses co-opting the term open source to promote software that doesn’t grant users the right to use the source code for any purpose.
And by “clarifying” you mean “dunking on Open Source and parading around like the saviors of the human race for inventing Open-Source-except-with-donation-nags-to-fund-their-fully-for-profit-business.” Good job, guys, you’ve solved enshittification (/s).
One of the goals of source first licenses is to stop enshittification since it doesn’t allow paid clones
Not saying I agree with their policy, but I would hope more for-profit businesses make their source code available
This is basically Proprietary Licencing in a way
But they do provide a good alternative for watching videos on multiple platforms without ads, without subscriptions or anything. And the app works if you don’t pay as well. Just because they ask money for their hard work while at the same time allowing the community to work with it sounds all good to me. It’s just not completely open source and completely free. But feel free to make a non-profit true open source counterpart if you like :)
Haha yeah I do find the licence a bit weird. Kind of a non-commercial licence but there are definitely some parts that I don’t quite get.
I have seen Eron Wolf talking a bit about what he is trying to do. I get his frustrations, but am not convinced their licence helps with those at all. You can’t really take open source, take away some freedoms that are sometimes taken advantage of, and pretend that removing those freedoms didn’t remove the benefits that are the reason those freedoms existed in the first place.
It’s proprietary
No it’s not. SF license allows for noncommercial modification, and it is Source Available.
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Epic!
Grayjay mobile is awesome, very much looking forward to checking this out. Love how it puts all my YouTube, Patreon, Twitch and Peertube content in one place.
95℅ of the time my Patreon feeds fail to load. This isn’t your experience?
There’s an occasional error popup during playback, but the feeds and video still work here. I’m on Grayjay v268 w/ Patreon v17
My biggest issue is Peertube tbh, discovery is difficult, border line useless.
Is there a Flatpak?
Not yet. Had to manually download.
I am linux noob, they provided a .zip file for linux. Do I need to use the command line to install it?
You just unzip it and run it
Thanks. I’m running PopOS Cosmic Alpha and it doesn’t like the executable, and since its in alpha there’s features missing in this DE that would allow me (linux noob) to easily install it. I’ll try installing Grayjay again when my OS / DE is in beta or something.
Mobile app has been the best YouTube app replacement I’ve found. And I just got the pop up about the desktop app on my drive home from work. Will for sure check it out.
I wish it more closely mirrored YouTube’s native video suggestions, but it’s pretty damn close.
That’s awesome. I love the grayjay mobile app. I need more non YouTube creators to follow though
Yes, finally! I’ve been using the mobile app, and it has been nothing but amazing.
The peertube app recently launched and its pretty decent for a first release
Does it have tabs? if not I can’t see myself caring.
It doesn’t look like it does. It has multiple stackable windows, though.
Still can’t set the video speed above 2.25x? Otherwise it’s useless to me.
You’ll have to teach me how you can follow/enjoy/understand any media at such high speed before I can understand your statement.
Gradualism
At first I watched every YouTube video on 1.5x for like 6 months.
Then I watched everything on 1.8X for another 6 months. Then 2.2x and so on.
Now I watch everything between 2.8x and 3.6x, Depends on the talking speed of the person in the video. I can understand everything.
Of course I watch some videos in normal 1x speed but those are usually just like artistic videos or movie trailers and stuff like that. If there is just a person talking to the camera, there is no reason for me to watch it in normal speed.
And what is the reason for doing that?
I thought that was obvious. Time.
You would not believe how much time I have saved over the years by doing this. When I can finish 30m video in less than 10 minutes.
I don’t know about you, but when I come home from work, I don’t have a whole evening to just watch yt videos.
This way I can finish the videos I wanted to watch a lot sooner and then I can go and do something else.
I struggle with that same issue. I’ll risk nine out of 10 people suffer from it. There are only twenty four hours in a day.
In my understanding, that is not a good way to make better use of your time. I’m glad it works for you but makes no sense whatsoever.
If you do that for, to my understanding, speeding through dialogue heavy content, you’re essentially following podcasts. You can do many things while listening anything, at normal speeds.
When I am cooking, cleaning, etc, I listen to audiobooks. Not at those same speeds as YouTube videos. Between 1.25x and 1.8x, depends on a narrator again.
Hopefully there’s light mode
