It seems at the very least to be an attempt at erasing an ethnic culture, comparable in some ways to Native American boarding schools in the history of the U.S. and Canada
It is not comparable. Read RDO’s An Indigenous Peoples History of the US if you want to see what actual genocide looks like. Things that are worthy of criticism in China are almost never the things western media criticizes them for imo.
Uyghur language is widely teached, is on the currency notes of the PRC, all public signs in Xinjiang are at least in Uyghur and Mandarin, Uyghurs are well represented in the arts, economy, and public life, hell Xinjiang is major tourist destination within China. Before Covid 300 million people visited each year.
The Uyghurs are one of the 56 recognized ands thus constitutionally protected minorities within the PRC. The PRC guarantees them everything the north american natives can only hope for.
I didn’t realize that the Uyghur language was an official language, and I didn’t know that ethnic groups have constitutional protections in China. I think a lot of the conclusions drawn from the video ignore the context that China has legal protections for languages and ethnic groups that places like the U.S. don’t.
I think “at the very least” was a poor choice of words on my part, and it was probably not 100% fair to compare it to things that have happened to native Americans. There were legal documents from the Chinese government that the author of the video cited that would lead me to believe that there is an attempt at the assimilation of Uyghur people into a larger Chinese culture and language
One of the issues was that many ethnic minorities couldn’t speak mandarin (which to be clear, is a second language for the majority of Chinese people) and and a result were disadvantaged in terms of employment.
The PRC has always worked to create a pan-Chinese identity, including all their minority ethnic groups along side the Han majority, but this doesn’t mean there’s an effort to eliminate local cultures. People are fully capable of leaning Mandarin and enjoying Han-centric media while continuing to speak their local languages (which are legally protected) and maintain their old ways of life.
only about 8% of indigenous people still speak their native languages which are rapidly going extinct and for example Pine Ridge reservation still has the lowest average life expectancy and highest infant mortality rates, along with extremely high rates of cancer due to being surrounded by bombing ranges and contaminated with uranium mine runoff in most of the reservation water supply. As someone that has worked with indigenous activists for decades I can confirm it was pretty gross, ignorant, and just plain wrong.
Are you saying it was gross because the situation of Uyghurs in China is not as bad as the situation of indigenous people in the U.S.? The reason I chose to make the comparison I did is that the author of the video makes the same comparison, and it seemed like an example that people might have prior knowledge of or be able to relate to.
I apologize that I used things that have happened to indigenous Americans in the past to further a point when I did not fully understand their situation.
I would like to know what you felt was wrong about the comparison
The last of these camps literally teached that language along with proper grammar, mandarin, proper islam teached by imams, they were trade schools and the “inmates” went home for ther weekends. I use past tense, because those “camps” were closed in 2019. So the kernel of truth the entire hoax has been created from did not exist for over half a decade.
It seems at the very least to be an attempt at erasing an ethnic culture, comparable in some ways to Native American boarding schools in the history of the U.S. and Canada
It is not comparable. Read RDO’s An Indigenous Peoples History of the US if you want to see what actual genocide looks like. Things that are worthy of criticism in China are almost never the things western media criticizes them for imo.
It is completely uncomparable to those atrocities
No there is no such attempt, lol.
Uyghur language is widely teached, is on the currency notes of the PRC, all public signs in Xinjiang are at least in Uyghur and Mandarin, Uyghurs are well represented in the arts, economy, and public life, hell Xinjiang is major tourist destination within China. Before Covid 300 million people visited each year.
The Uyghurs are one of the 56 recognized ands thus constitutionally protected minorities within the PRC. The PRC guarantees them everything the north american natives can only hope for.
I didn’t realize that the Uyghur language was an official language, and I didn’t know that ethnic groups have constitutional protections in China. I think a lot of the conclusions drawn from the video ignore the context that China has legal protections for languages and ethnic groups that places like the U.S. don’t.
what a disgusting thing to say
I think “at the very least” was a poor choice of words on my part, and it was probably not 100% fair to compare it to things that have happened to native Americans. There were legal documents from the Chinese government that the author of the video cited that would lead me to believe that there is an attempt at the assimilation of Uyghur people into a larger Chinese culture and language
One of the issues was that many ethnic minorities couldn’t speak mandarin (which to be clear, is a second language for the majority of Chinese people) and and a result were disadvantaged in terms of employment.
The PRC has always worked to create a pan-Chinese identity, including all their minority ethnic groups along side the Han majority, but this doesn’t mean there’s an effort to eliminate local cultures. People are fully capable of leaning Mandarin and enjoying Han-centric media while continuing to speak their local languages (which are legally protected) and maintain their old ways of life.
I didn’t realize China had so many official state languages.
I would like to understand what is disgusting about what I said.
only about 8% of indigenous people still speak their native languages which are rapidly going extinct and for example Pine Ridge reservation still has the lowest average life expectancy and highest infant mortality rates, along with extremely high rates of cancer due to being surrounded by bombing ranges and contaminated with uranium mine runoff in most of the reservation water supply. As someone that has worked with indigenous activists for decades I can confirm it was pretty gross, ignorant, and just plain wrong.
Are you saying it was gross because the situation of Uyghurs in China is not as bad as the situation of indigenous people in the U.S.? The reason I chose to make the comparison I did is that the author of the video makes the same comparison, and it seemed like an example that people might have prior knowledge of or be able to relate to.
I apologize that I used things that have happened to indigenous Americans in the past to further a point when I did not fully understand their situation.
I would like to know what you felt was wrong about the comparison
8% of murrican natives speak their languages, 100% of Uyghurs do.
You: China treats them like the US!11111111
Fair point. Do you know if Uyghurs in the reeducation camps are allowed to speak their native language?
The last of these camps literally teached that language along with proper grammar, mandarin, proper islam teached by imams, they were trade schools and the “inmates” went home for ther weekends. I use past tense, because those “camps” were closed in 2019. So the kernel of truth the entire hoax has been created from did not exist for over half a decade.
Interesting. I’m inclined to believe you but I’m wondering if you have sources on hand for those claims.