first a quick question, if I switch over to jellyfin, is the same thing going to happen in four or five years? I’ll be all settled into a nice ecosystem and then they’ll just shit all over my face and I’ll have to start over?
how did they manage to break it so thoroughly so quickly? the Plex server is less than 100 feet from my bedroom, but ever since the update, the lag and buffering has been so bad (even when I turn it down to 240p, when I used to be able to watch it original quality) and they’ve broken the download for later feature so that I have to manually go get the files I want off my server and on to my phone for that evening, and then watch them on my phone using VLC.
they claim they made these changes based on user requests. oh yeah? prove it. I want to see exactly how many people asked you to make it so you can’t download an entire show at once. I want to see exactly how many people ask you to move the subtitle settings to a completely different menu from the subtitle toggle. I want to see how many people told you they wanted to learn a whole new layout for no apparent reason without the ability to change it back.
and I don’t know what you did on the back end, but I don’t think anybody asked you to make it buffer 10 times more than it used to. I don’t think anybody asked you to make it so that it’s harder to add things to playlists. I just flat out don’t believe you that anybody asked you for this stuff. you can prove me wrong pretty easily, just show us the data
because I’m 100% certain you made these changes for somebody other than your users and I want to know who and why. the fact that I can no longer share my library with my mother is pretty telling as to who you’re trying to please. let them know that the only reason I learned how to torrent in the first place was because something was inaccessible to me; do they really want me out here teaching retirees how to torrent their favorite shows? because if they can’t share my library, they’re going to have to build their own.
first a quick question, if I switch over to jellyfin, is the same thing going to happen in four or five years? I’ll be all settled into a nice ecosystem and then they’ll just shit all over my face and I’ll have to start over?
Jellyfin is open software built by volunteers - it’s not a business like Plex. There are no subscriptions, or being forced to go along with stupid shit. If someone or a group of people fucked up Jellyfin that bad, the community would fork it and develop a working version without any dogshit.
So I would have to say no.
I configured Jellyfin on an old tower I had sitting in my garage for the last 10 years. It took about 15 minutes. I don’t have an ethernet drop where I wanted to put it and it doesnt have onboard wifi so I am connecting it to my network with a shitty asus wifi dongle I bought in 2012. It works flawlessy - full 4k streaming to the other computer in my home where I watch most stuff without quality degradation or any unreasonable buffering. The client and server are running Debian stable.
Same experience here - I no longer can even cast from the new app because the cast list is just empty. My partner can cast from iOS, but the new iOS app design doesn’t appear to have a playback settings menu during cast playback, so we’re forced to transcode instead of direct stream. It also has fits of buffering several times a day when LAN streaming.
I have Jellyfin running in parallel but the only Jellyfin app I really find palatable is Findroid on android TV but it’s kinda in alpha right now
Get infuse. Not open source, but the subscription is cheap, and it just works. Library features aren’t as nice as Plex, but can share the same library, so you can still use plex for metadata etc.
What update is this?
just go read the one star reviews in the play store, if you haven’t noticed it probably doesn’t affect you
https://forums.plex.tv/t/plex-android-app-doesnt-work/916336/5
same as usual: team of long-existing, beloved product feels need to justify existence / “modernize” product. it starts off with a plan of having feature parity, but over time the project starts to drag on and features start being cut as “unimportant” or “for later”. eventually the team says fuck it and launches what they have, assuming it is good enough since it works in all the ways they test it themselves.
fuck plex, Jellyfin forever. That said you can use alternative frontends like kodi with plex for kodi plugin (you can do this with jellyfin as well though the plugin is different, jellyfin for kodi). This can be a better option to avoid this bullshit for both as the weakest part of jellyfin imo is the client apps (depending on platform, some are pretty solid)
I downgraded to a previous version as the new android version was garbage.
I had gotten a Plex unlimited account many years ago mostly for the plexamp support.
Thankfully plexamp still works really well for my purposes and has a lot of great functionality that I want from a music player.
does Jellyfin have any good music player apps that can tap into it? Just in case I do have to abandon Plex all together?
Finamp and a few others but plexamp is really plex’s strongest point. Alternatively you can also do a Navidrome or supersonic install and point that at your music
They Jellyfin music apps aren’t bad (Finamp is very solid, actually) but I’ve heard plexamp is quite good. Nothing does sonic analysis besides plexamp as far as I know. Someone will maybe eventually do this for Jellyfin but the music side of Jellyfin in general is weaker tbh
I was looking at Navidome the other day. I haven’t looked at supersonic but saw navidrome supported many supersonic apps.
Plexamp is the main reason I got Plex unlimited, and as long as it doesn’t get too shitty I’ll stick with it - as long as I’m not forced to update to the new shot mobile version of Plex I’ll be okay for now for other media content.
convenience attempt by committee
Well also from the dev in that thread:
“Dev here, this is correct. Casting is done through them [Vizbee] to simplify our end of the implementation for device discovery and any future new protocols such as Matter Casting. But there is absolutely no tracking being done whatsoever.
They have a tracking product as well which is probably why their domain names ended up on these ad blocking lists, but Plex uses none of this. You can validate this yourself by looking at any network traffic to their actual analytics domain name, events.claspws.tv.”
Maybe plex is changing things for the sake of changing things, maybe they are seriously concerned about matter support for the 3% of users that care about such a feature, or maybe they’re setting up the framework for ad tracking now so it can be easily deployed later. They do have a 40 million dollar investment round to make good on, and that might be a “other things aren’t working to make us profitable enough” idea
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Doesn’t affect them yet.
Fuck. I wonder if you could run plex and jellyfin side by side ?
I do exactly this, both just docker containers in the same docker-compose. Both have the exact same media paths mounted. As long as you have good naming conventions (I let arrstack rename all my stuff) it pretty much just works and everything shows up in both just fine.
There’s even some ways to keep your watch states in sync between the two, I used to use jellyfin for people that watched from mobile and having the progress kept between the two is great
Of course you can. I have had it that way for many years.
They both even point to the same media folders.
I usually use Jellyfin, it’s snappier.
I’m pretty sure you can.
