• Dandroid@dandroid.app
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    1 year ago

    Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good. Security is not all or nothing. Reducing the attack surface is still important.

    Can you elaborate on running docker daemon as rootless? It’s my understanding that you can add your account to a group to access the docker daemon rootless, but the containers are still running as root, as the daemon itself raises the access to root.

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      1 year ago

      but the containers are still running as root, as the daemon itself raises the access to root.

      No. The daemon can run without root, as such the containers don’t have root. My docker install doesn’t have root access. None of my stacks / containers need any root access tbh. I don’t have any troubles with deplyong stuff.

      https://docs.docker.com/engine/security/rootless/

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        1 year ago

        I never said I was relying on it alone. Not sure why you think that.

        That’s a great link. Thank you for sharing. It’s good that docker supports this functionality now.

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            1 year ago

            I think you’re interpreting too much. Security is about layers and making it harder for attackers, and that’s exactly what using a non-root user does.

            In that scenario, the attacker needs to find and exploit another vulnerability to gain root access, which takes time - time which the attacker might not be willing to spend and time which you can use to respond.

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                1 year ago

                Funny how you claim to know so much about security but can’t even seem to comprehend my comment. I know root shell exploits exist, that’s why I wrote that it takes additional time to get root access, not that it’s impossible. And that’s still a security improvement because it’s an additional hurdle for the adversary.

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                  1 year ago

                  the person you are replying to either lacks comprehension or maybe just wants to be argumentative and doesn’t want to comprehend.

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                    1 year ago

                    Once again, you’re going off on an unrelated tangent. If you don’t want to listen, I can’t help you. We’re done here.