• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    “Jetliners are spraying mind control juice”

    Not all jetliners. Just some.

    Uh huh, so, where on the jetliner is it stored?

    In tanks.

    Can you show me any evidence of a jet aircraft equipped with such a dispersion system?

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-july-25-2017-1.4219055/can-geoengineering-technology-combat-extreme-weather-1.4219301

    Why would you bother using jet airliners for this that fly extremely high?

    SAI could be achieved using existing aircraft injecting aerosols at an altitude of 8 miles high but at this lower altitude three times more aerosol would be needed

    Oh it’s mixed straight into the fuel!

    No.

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      9 hours ago

      Now there we’re talking about cloud seeding. That is at least mostly real.

      If I understand correctly, the object is to spray chemicals into the air which strongly encourages moisture to condense into clouds, either blocking sunlight or causing rain. The USAF experimented with this during the Vietnam war to some success, it’s not exactly the cartoon idea of “Airplane flies by, airplane farts, there’s a rumble of thunder and an instant summer rain shower”. Though for various reasons to include “the chemicals you have to spray to make this work aren’t very nice” it’s probably a bad idea. I gather that’s what the legislation in question is actually about, and it’s honestly not a bad idea to regulate or ban this practice.

      The word “Chemtrail” isn’t associated with that, it’s tinfoil hat ivermectin sucking 5G fearing moron talk for “the airlines are spraying chemicals that make you vote Democrat. Wake up sheeple.” Which is 1. complete and utter donkey shit, 2. makes conversations about cloud seeding worse, and 3. makes conversations about General Aviation still using leaded gasoline worse.

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        8 hours ago

        The word “Chemtrail” isn’t associated with that, it’s tinfoil hat ivermectin sucking 5G fearing moron talk for "the airlines are spraying chemicals that make you vote Democrat.

        This is your interpretation of a fictional persons opinion. There is no conspiracy that links ivermectin to 5G.

        Step back. Are you using your own words or are you just repeating what someone wrote on a forum somewhere?

        Conspiracy theorists are often inconsistent and illogical, but there is sometimes a nugget of truth under all the madness.

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          7 hours ago

          I was somewhat flippantly lumping conspiracy theorists together as a community, expressing an observation that the idiots who believe jet liners are spraying mind control chemicals are likely to also believe in bullshit like flat earth or anti-vax or all manner of other shit we just should not tolerate as a society.

          But welcome to the internet where casual discussions must also be MLA formatted research papers because somebody’s going to take your words as ridiculously literal as they can.

          Those nuggets of truth are absolutely real. It’s why I bring up TEL in AVGAS, there are airplanes hosing the place down with neurotoxins, it’s a real problem. Fortunately there’s a robust plan to fix it, and I’m surprised it hasn’t been canceled by the Trump regime already.

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            6 hours ago

            Fair enough. It just annoys me when conspiracies are lumped together.

            One person believing the earth is flat has no relation to someone believing that industry executives hide the harmful effects of their products. Yet both are labelled conspiracy theorists.

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              6 hours ago

              Folks who buy into conspiracy theories may buy into more than one, often for similar reasons. A lot of them boil down to “Big They is trying to control you by putting X in the Y, so don’t eat the Y” and if you’re willing to buy that story once you’re probably willing to buy it again. While I don’t think the myths have much to do with each other, I bet you’ll find a lot of “chemtrail” believers also…being afraid of 5G cell networks? Vaccines. Whatever they don’t understand.

              Industry executives hiding the harmful effects of their products definitely happens though. It’s quite well documented.

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                5 hours ago

                The reason I gave those two examples was to highlight that conspiracy can range from false to (almost certainly) true.

                Folks who buy into conspiracy theories may buy into more than one, often for similar reasons.

                I have no data on this but suspect it is more true for lower IQ than higher IQ.

                However, I don’t believe it should be a standard assumption. Considering one topic to be possible doesn’t automatically imply a person believes in something else.