• mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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    we just had a coalition of liberals, "social"democrats and greens here in Germany. Believe me no one thinks that liberals are left of center.

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      This isn’t really relevant here. Social liberalism, democratic liberalism as categories are defined as left of center. A green group and another group labelling themselves socialist whatever isn’t changing what the definition is for sometime with different names

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        The “other group labelling themselves socialist” is literally the SPD but go off. You have no clue about socialism or its history, so I’m curious according to whose definition social liberalism or democratic liberalism is left of center.

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          Source: Wikipedia – Social liberalism

          Quote: “Social liberalism is a political philosophy and variety of liberalism that endorses social justice, social services, a mixed economy, and the expansion of civil and political rights…”

          Quote: “Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centre to centre-left, although there are deviations from these positions to both the political left or right. In modern political discourse, social liberalism is associated with progressivism, a left-liberalism contrasted to the right-leaning neoliberalism, and combines support for a mixed economy with cultural liberalism.”

          Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism


          Source: Simple English Wikipedia – Social liberalism

          Quote: “Social liberalism … endorses a regulated market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights.”

          Quote: “Social liberal ideas and parties tend to be considered centrist or centre-left"

          Link: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism


          Source: Britannica – Liberalism

          Quote: “Modern liberals are generally willing to experiment with large‑scale social change to further their project of protecting and enhancing individual freedom.”

          Link: https://www.britannica.com/question/How-does-modern-liberalism-differ-from-conservatism


          Source: Cambridge Dictionary – Liberalism

          Quote: “Liberal political ideas emphasize the need to make new laws as society changes and the need for government to provide social services.”

          Link: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english-russian/liberal


          Source: Pew Research Center – Beyond Red vs. Blue: The Political Typology

          Quote: “Holding liberal positions on nearly all issues, Establishment Liberals are some of the strongest supporters of the current president and the Democratic Party of any political typology group.”

          Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/beyond-red-vs-blue-the-political-typology-2/