By AMELIA THOMSON-DEVEAUX
Updated 11:08 AM EDT, September 8, 2025
Capitalism’s image has slipped with U.S. adults overall since 2021, the survey finds, and the results show a gradual but persistent shift in Democrats’ support for the two ideologies over the past 15 years, with socialism rising as capitalism falls. The shifts underscore deep divisions within the party about whether open support for socialism will hurt Democrats’ ability to reach moderates or galvanize greater support from people who are concerned about issues like the cost of living.
…But Democrats under 50 are much less likely to view capitalism favorably, while the opinions of Democrats ages 50 and older haven’t shifted meaningfully, according to Gallup.
Well if you’re only polling Democrats, the poll isn’t giving you any real understanding. The actual socialists have been methodically and intentionally pushed out of the party. And young folks have clearly heard the message, as they have broadly rejected the Democrats in return.
There’s a reason the Democrats are polling even lower than Trump, and that’s precisely because of how many people have embraced socialism. Trying to understand that only within the context of those still with the party is pointless.
This type of opinion thing just annoys me. When it comes to private vs government control I want a mix. One is just the reality of it. Given property tax land is essentially rented out anyway and given regulations I can totally see it just being recognized as government leases. This would actually be nicer if the terms are fixed so that people don’t have to worry about “owning” a home they will then get taxed out of. Then there is that if there is no real competition then we should not pretend private enterprise is the best solution. Without multiple electric and gas infrastructure there is realistically only one option for my utilities. Having several suppliers is just capitalist theater as far as im concerned. Further anything necessary should have a government option be it healthcare or education. Now when it comes to tv’s or toys or other stupid crap that is totally fine to be full on capitalist.
Markets can have a place in early socialist development, especially for luxuries like you said, but there’s no reason to really keep it when the profit motive overstays its usefulness. It sounds like you’d be a big fan of Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, which is similar to what you describe, only with the caveat that the goal is to fully collectivize production in the long run as this becomes more feasible.
well democracy and civil rights are more important than either socialism or capitalism in a country/government/society. Thats the start to then determine what people want.
Democracy and civil rights are only really achievable when the working class is in charge, ergo socialism is a prerequisite.
I completely disagree.
How much democracy does your workplace have?
The state is an extension of the ruling class of society, and will use its authority to oppress the other classes and prevent real change. Under capitalism, this class is the bourgeoisie, ergo the working class is crushed.
great pontification.
Do you actually disagree with the point, or just the way I said it? If you want me to elaborate, the wealthy, those in charge of the large firms and key industries and thus the real power in society, are the ones that manipulate the state through lobbying, control of the media, etc. Socialism becomes a prerequisite for working class control because the state will never be their true ally when already under control of the wealthiest.
You disagree because you’re utterly ignorant on the subject you’re attempting to debate, and you evidently haven’t even spent any time thinking about it.
8·16 hours ago[…] It is difficult for me to imagine what “personal liberty” is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment.
Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible.
In a democracy with human rights that liberty that is enjoyed is the states measures to mitiagate the circumstances and if it is not the ability as a member of a democracy to change it by voting, speaking out, protesting, etc.
So socialism.
Get organized!
“We have got to get these dang moderates to the polls.”
-fucking idiots
watching videos of dedicated & well regarded communists on tiktok and rednote push for an embrace of american moderates to help push the US zeitgeist to shift their views politically leftwards makes me wonder if they are idiots.
You gotta be pretty oblivious to think the current system is working for most people.
Such a view often stems from consuming media that perpetuates the simplistic propaganda of blaming China, Russia, or immigrants rather than examining the system’s inherent flaws.
Denialism is ready and cognitive dissonance is unpleasant.
Only 37% of U.S. adults have a positive image of big business, down from 49% in 2010.
Oligarchist and Corporatist supremacism is the actual evil in what “you” understand as Capitalism, which is effectively supremacy of the wealthy with favourable tax rates that force the rest of us to actually pay for government. Payroll taxes, as an example, is a higher source of revenue than corporate or personal income taxes. The gap between approval of big business vs capitalism is the gap in understanding what is wrong with “capitalism”.
Free and fair markets, as defined by founder of capitalism: Adam Smith, is a non-evil social organization principle. UBI is fundamentally compatible with free and fair markets, giving people more power to refuse unfair labour or rental propositions, and to be aware that zionist militarism costs something that could be more cash to them instead.
Yesterday on CNBC, the most zionist, oligarchist, corporatist supremacist media in US, and ADL hosting service, kept up on its zionazi campaign to desperately derail the Mamdami campaign by inviting zionazi pig vermin, Andrew Cuomo, to shout out every delusional fearmongering lie imaginable describing Mamdami campaign. They immediately followed up with 2 of the most demonic sub-human zionazi oligarchist supremacist GOP members to discuss these survey results and boost the Oligarchist supremacist rule of US. Tim Scott, and Vavek somethingindian-swami.
While both portrayed socialism as a system where no one is allowed to make any money, both have chosen career paths that oversea the largest national spending in history of universe, where Tim Scott, has no limit on military giveaways to Israel or anti-China spending. GOP philosophy of socializing costs for privatized profits is ultimate political position for bribery and post-office rewards.
Tim Scott praised himself for the “socialist” success story of being a fatherless public housing survivor. Vivek told us that US 7th graders have same academic achievement as China’s 3rd graders, which didn’t sound like he was going with the Florida capitalist supremacist solution of forcing children into coal mines, instead of that sweet socialist education investment in a future.
