To Blame has a very specific dictionary definition. Blaming the victim… For what?
To Blame (Verb): assign responsibility for a fault or wrong.
How am I “blaming” you If I were to use mouth-breather against a red hat loser or nazi — how is that blaming someone else for literally having a physiological issue that pertains to mouth-breathing? Did I ever state that it was your fault for having to breathe through the mouth? If I did, then that would be victim-blaming. Moreover, does that mean we cannot speak on any uncomfortable topic that may exert an undue trigger for any bystander reading? E.g., Maybe I raise the topic of cancer to talk about, but then someone says, “Hey, you’re victim-blaming me because you brought up cancer and that makes me uncomfortable because my mom just died from that and I don’t want to see those words online!”? Does that mean we can never discuss any topic or use any word that may be an emotional trigger for someone in an edge-case circumstance?
To your question on the N-word, no, probably not. I thought about this a bit and I perceive certain words that at least in modern terms have etymological origins or modern use to be strictly FOR slurs. That is, I don’t use the homophobic f-word slur, or N-Word in any context because I think they ARE inherently loaded terms. But being short? Breathing through the mouth? Missing a chromosome? I defend these vulnerable group every single day against asshole bigots of the right. The slur only works against bigots because they perceive it as a slur in the first place. I don’t. You don’t. That’s what matters.
Now instead of the f-word, what I might say to a machismo red-hatted straight guy to poke at their own macho-man complex, “Wow, buddy, that sounds pretty gay!”
Notice that I don’t believe the underlying term in this case is a slur because that’s a perfectly normal state of being, but I know they do, and that it would strike at their ego.
That said, I am very sorry for you experienced that. Anyone who mocks you directly for that is 100% a piece of shit.
Edit: Additional question: is it then wrong to say that either Biden or Trump is old and senile? Suffering from dementia because other people may have dementia or because they know someone who has dementia?
I understand you currently believe this — but that’s kind of the heart and point of contention in our discussion now, is it not? You’re just reiterating what has already been stated as the opposing side. I am aware.
Thoughts on the rest of my comment, or are you going just for low-hanging fruit?
Your fallacy is: Ad Populum. Go to a conservative sub, and you’ll be in the minority and many users will say the same to you. Does that mean you’re wrong? If all I get are mostly low-hanging fruit responses, that’s not very convincing.
Oh you got me there! Except… Please point where I actually said “we’re more numerous so we must be right”… Adding my voice that I know to be right to others that I also know to be right is not that.
You’re trying so hard to justify using ableist, bigoted slurs. There’s no justification for them, full stop.
Now I’m getting out of this convo as I know it will go nowhere, you’re stuck on your position, maybe viewing an admission of being wrong as weakness or something like that. Or you’re a troll. Either way, blocking you, bye!
To Blame has a very specific dictionary definition. Blaming the victim… For what?
How am I “blaming” you If I were to use mouth-breather against a red hat loser or nazi — how is that blaming someone else for literally having a physiological issue that pertains to mouth-breathing? Did I ever state that it was your fault for having to breathe through the mouth? If I did, then that would be victim-blaming. Moreover, does that mean we cannot speak on any uncomfortable topic that may exert an undue trigger for any bystander reading? E.g., Maybe I raise the topic of cancer to talk about, but then someone says, “Hey, you’re victim-blaming me because you brought up cancer and that makes me uncomfortable because my mom just died from that and I don’t want to see those words online!”? Does that mean we can never discuss any topic or use any word that may be an emotional trigger for someone in an edge-case circumstance?
To your question on the N-word, no, probably not. I thought about this a bit and I perceive certain words that at least in modern terms have etymological origins or modern use to be strictly FOR slurs. That is, I don’t use the homophobic f-word slur, or N-Word in any context because I think they ARE inherently loaded terms. But being short? Breathing through the mouth? Missing a chromosome? I defend these vulnerable group every single day against asshole bigots of the right. The slur only works against bigots because they perceive it as a slur in the first place. I don’t. You don’t. That’s what matters.
Now instead of the f-word, what I might say to a machismo red-hatted straight guy to poke at their own macho-man complex, “Wow, buddy, that sounds pretty gay!”
Notice that I don’t believe the underlying term in this case is a slur because that’s a perfectly normal state of being, but I know they do, and that it would strike at their ego.
That said, I am very sorry for you experienced that. Anyone who mocks you directly for that is 100% a piece of shit.
Edit: Additional question: is it then wrong to say that either Biden or Trump is old and senile? Suffering from dementia because other people may have dementia or because they know someone who has dementia?
Anyone who uses their disability to mock anyone is a piece of shit.
There, I fixed it for you.
I understand you currently believe this — but that’s kind of the heart and point of contention in our discussion now, is it not? You’re just reiterating what has already been stated as the opposing side. I am aware.
Thoughts on the rest of my comment, or are you going just for low-hanging fruit?
Low-hanging fruit, others have tried to educate you yet you still cling to your very wrong belief, I just wanted to add to their voices.
Your fallacy is: Ad Populum. Go to a conservative sub, and you’ll be in the minority and many users will say the same to you. Does that mean you’re wrong? If all I get are mostly low-hanging fruit responses, that’s not very convincing.
Oh you got me there! Except… Please point where I actually said “we’re more numerous so we must be right”… Adding my voice that I know to be right to others that I also know to be right is not that.
You’re trying so hard to justify using ableist, bigoted slurs. There’s no justification for them, full stop.
Now I’m getting out of this convo as I know it will go nowhere, you’re stuck on your position, maybe viewing an admission of being wrong as weakness or something like that. Or you’re a troll. Either way, blocking you, bye!
Sounds like a weak hit-and-run but I suppose nothing of value was lost. Adios.