From article:

If you have the Brave Browser installed on your Windows devices, then you may also have Brave VPN services installed on the machine. Brave installs these services without user consent on Windows devices.

More reason to ditch the crypto bro browser.

    • funkajunk@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Not that I’m defending anybody but how is this touching your “network stack” any more than any other application?

      • t3rmit3@beehaw.org
        10·
        1 year ago

        because a VPN is both a new network interface, and it has the ability to change how your traffic routes. Most applications don’t do that.

        • funkajunk@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I see now that it was adding a wireguard interface, but without seeing the configuration being used, there’s no telling if they are routing anything more than the traffic from the browser.

          As an aside, are you serving applications from your workstation?

  • Engywuck@lemm.ee
    15·
    1 year ago

    https://old.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/17b0pxl/brave_appears_to_install_vpn_services_without/k5kwd97/

    https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/33726

    And crypto are disabled by default.

    No, I wont’ ditch it. It’s the best browser out there, right now, since scummy/corrupt/hypocrite Mozilla (which, remember, is in bed with Google, Amazon and Facebook while criticizing them) decided that Firefox is just a side project for them and they’re deceiving people making them believe that donations fund FF development.

    Don’t even bother to reply. I’m not going to fuel this shitty thread any further.

    • WastedJobe@feddit.de
      115·
      1 year ago

      “In bed with”=takes their money to have their search engine and lets you change it in 30 seconds while being completely open source

      I don’t see the problem.

          • 30p87@feddit.de
            13·
            1 year ago

            0.980s by using ydotool key 29:1 20:1 20:0 29:0 -d 0 && ydotool type "about>preferences\n" -d 0 && sleep 0.26 && ydotool type "search engine\t" -d 0 && ydotool key 103:1 103:0 -d 20

      • flora_explora@beehaw.org
        6·
        1 year ago

        Tbf, changing the default search engine probably has the effect that the vast majority of users will stick with it. So, although it is pretty easy for you and me to change the search engine, it still promotes Google quite a lot and thus undermines the independent character of Firefox as a whole.

        • WastedJobe@feddit.de
          28·
          1 year ago

          Absolutely. I would prefer they didn’t have google as the default, but I’d rather have Firefox with good funding and google as default than firefox with very little funding.

          • flora_explora@beehaw.org
            1·
            1 year ago

            I wasn’t defending chromium or brave, not even commenting on them at all. I was just adding a caveat to what the other commenter said about Firefox.

      • ByteWelder@lemmy.ml
        6·
        1 year ago

        I applaud LibreWolf’s efforts, but the hard-coded timezone makes it unusable for me. Other than that, it’s a great browser. I used it several months until the timezone confusion got the best of me.

          • ByteWelder@lemmy.ml
            4·
            1 year ago

            If I recall correctly, it was meant as a measure against fingerprinting. It’s basically one less thing to uniquely define a user based on the info that the browser gives to a website. I’m not sure if it’s still like that, cause it’s been easily a year since I used LibreWolf.

          • Baggins@beehaw.orgEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yes, what is the deal? I can’t say that I’ve noticed any issues. Am in UK if that makes a difference. And I usually run it through Proton VPN.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
      56·
      1 year ago

      It’s still a behavior like “we are the best software in the world, once we get admin permission we can do whatever we want without additional user consent, people appreciate it”.

      No. You must ask permission to install useless Windows services, even if they’re disabled.

      • bananbreadnomnom@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        1 year ago

        Brave is chrome

        Chromium, and no. It’s downstream from it and they remove the parts they don’t like. They did some things in the past that makes them highly untrustworthy in my opinion (like replacing affiliate links with their own ones or using user data from their search engine to train AI) but Brave is still far better than Chrome.

    • lukini@beehaw.org
      32·
      1 year ago

      Don’t even bother to reply. I’m not going to fuel this shitty thread any further.

      Nah I’m gonna pile on. Firefox is better.

    • Mika@beehaw.orgEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I’m considering it, but how does thorium handle Google’s recent Web manifest updates that break true ad blockers like uBlock origin?

      I’ve been pretty happy with the customizability of librefox with the userchrome.css and ublock still works with YouTube.

      • penquin@lemmy.kde.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        Well, you have two options. The same developer of thorium does have a Firefox one and it’s called mercury. Blazing fast, too. Or you can install adblock detection bypass extension on thorium. It is an extension that’s made to work with chrome alongside ublock origin to bypass YouTube adblock detection. In fact, I literally just ran into that issue today and the other extension fixed it.