• cm0002@piefed.worldOP
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    8 hours ago

    You wouldn’t believe the amount of straight propaganda I have to filter out when crossposting from there, it’s another reason I can’t automate it. No way I could trust automation to sufficiently filter that crap out. Russian propaganda sites like RT always seems to crop up over there with odd urls like “swentir[dot]site”

    Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

    I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

    Megathread on the issue

    Some highlights from the link:

    "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

    “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

    I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

    On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

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      8 hours ago

      So only if special users do it?.

      Interesting philosophy to hate the tool while still using it and pulling others content from it.

      Cool crusade you have there

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        So only if special users do it?.

        No idea what you mean on this

        Interesting philosophy to hate the tool while still using it and pulling others content from it.

        Code is code and isn’t inherently poltical it was released as open source for those to do with what they please.

        Cool crusade you have there

        Thanks! Are you going to go make another thread on hex about it :) just wanna know if I should make up a batch of popcorn

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          It’s okay to use when you or goat use it.

          Code is code and isn’t inherently poltical it was released as open source for those to do with what they please.

          Which makes the crusade against devs odd.

          Oh you go on hexbear.net? Thought they’d be hated by you! Didn’t know you also enjoyed interactions with them based on love of goat comms

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            7 hours ago

            Ah I see now, mere one way traffic doesn’t contribute to an instance; voting, commenting and posting to its comms does, which I ofc don’t do in any shape or form.

            Which makes the crusade against devs odd.

            Fundamental misunderstanding, my problem stems from the fact they run an instance in an official capacity and use it to push their authoritarian ideology. As covered (and documented here) in my spoiler above

            Oh you go on hexbear.net? Thought they’d be hated by you!

            Not really, did you know Lemmy actually has a really good search function? Leagues better than Reddits own. Oh they def do and I find it funny how often I come up over there on the Lemmy-version of 4chan though LMAO

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              It doesn’t but keep going on the crusade. Still seems odd to do anything with an instance you consider north Korean.

              Yeah so official they wanted world to be the top so they weren’t the official one…

              People who associate with goat usually do

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                7 hours ago

                with an instance you consider north Korean.

                I don’t, not sure where you picked that up at. I consider it to be a Tankie instance through and through as defined by:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
                Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.

                I’ve seen all manner of authoritarian propaganda, from pro-DPRK “They’re not a brutal dictatorship, it’s just western propaganda!” To pro-Russia “Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia is just trying to protect themselves from NATO!” To pro-CCP “Censorship is actually good!” All of which is documented on the megathread linked previously

                Yeah so official they wanted world to be the top so they weren’t the official one…

                If they didn’t want, they could’ve ran lemmy.ml from alt accounts so nobody would associate it with them. Then it would just be another triad instance and nobody would care. But as also covered in the spoiler you didn’t read, they use this position to their advantage to push their authoritarianism further

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                    7 hours ago

                    Oh lol yea I suppose I did, ig that’s what happens when you do throwaway jokes 🤣

                    And I don’t trust anything posted on meanwhile on grad

                    Hm, yea, whatever excuse you need to tell yourself to ignore evidence in front of your eyes. Not like most of what I’ve documented has direct link back to the source where possible or anything ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯