I see lw more often banning or removing than ml, usually ml only does temp while world does permanent
For one, LW is 3x the size of .ml, naturally there are going to be more actions taken compared to .ml. it’s equivalent to people complaining about how “crime is so much worse in NYC then [Some Small Town]”.
Two, on .world moderators mod and admins admin, as it should be. By the time a .world admin is issuing something down it’s because a particular user has already been problematic in individual comms and getting temp bans already OR it’s a user spamming, posting ads or other harmful content (e.g. propaganda, misinformation (and even then, they let it go for a while longer than they should IMO))
Three, there’s no pattern of abuse to push a particular agenda, as I have demonstrated with .ml admins. At worst, you can drum up some poor decisions
One of lw top mods is currently doing transphobia and may or may not get any response from the admins
Absolutely problematic, Jordanlund should be removed. That being said JL is a mod, not an admin at the end of the day.
It does not prove systemic abuse of a respected position of a leading instance to push an agenda, unlike what is proven with the .ml admins.
While it’s been 5 days, the LW admins should be given the time needed. Remember, it’s essentially a bunch of humans in volunteer positions, it’s not full time employment and removing such an integrated mod with large comms is no trivial task
They have acknowledged they are investigating and will take action.
Nutomics is a complete ass but I thought code was code?
I didn’t say anything about the code, Nutomic is an admin on .ml just as much as the rest of them
So far it’s according to you it’s okay for lw to be worse because it’s larger, but ml is still the lead instance even though they said it shouldn’t be and while they haven’t done anything about jl the entire time it’s okay?
And still according to you ml is the NK instance but still not bad enough to manually mirror content for reasons even though it’s just the NK tankie instance.
This is just one of many awful mods lw has which hasn’t been doing anything about they just seem to leave once called out or allowed to continue because reasons. See flying squid and news massive admitted zionists mods.
We’re over a week in to their supposed investigation and the only place they’ve said anything about it is db0 not the initial post show casing jls awful behavior to users.
I didn’t say anything about the code, Nutomic is an admin on .ml just as much as the rest of them
You did again in this thread on why it was okay in your mind to use said NK instance material, again odd considering how much you seem to hate said devs but 🤷, I’m not the one on a crusade to get people off not the largest instance just the test one for reasons
So far it’s according to you it’s okay for lw to be worse because it’s larger, but ml is still the lead instance even though they said it shouldn’t be and while they haven’t done anything about jl the entire time it’s okay?
You misunderstood completely, or more likely, twisting words to suit your narrative. It’s not worse, because there is no systemic pattern of abuse by the admins to push an agenda. As has been demonstrated with the .ml admins
LW admins don’t have the credentials that .ml admins do of being the devs. LW is the largest and should be held to a certain standard. Being the admins of .ml and main Lemmy devs holds them to an even higher standard. Average people will go “Lemmy.ml? Oh it’s an instance run by the developers themselves?” and forever have the association that lemmy.ml IS Lemmy therefore their harmful authoritarianism gets associated with all of Lemmy.
Even more insidious, quite a few instances that defederate from 2/3rds of the Triad don’t hold the same to .ml for many reason among them fear of retaliation.
And still according to you ml is the NK instance but still not bad enough to manually mirror content for reasons even though it’s just the NK tankie instance.
I already admitted it to being a throwaway joke, if you can’t get over that oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They’re a Tankie instance instance through and through as per the wikipedia entry posted above.
This is just one of many awful mods lw has which hasn’t been doing anything about they just seem to leave once called out or allowed to continue because reasons. See flying squid and news massive admitted zionists mods.
Wherever you stand on FS, he hasn’t been a factor for Months now. As for these other “Zionist mods” where’s the receipts?
We’re over a week in to their supposed investigation and the only place they’ve said anything about it is db0 not the initial post show casing jls awful behavior to users.
Again. LW, like nearly every other instance, is run by volunteers and donations. 5-10 business days for any business/paid service to make a major decision is what most people come to expect. And you want to hold people running a non-profit volunteer driven instance run in spare time to an even faster timeline than businesses are? That’s asinine.
You did again in this thread on why it was okay in your mind to use said NK instance material, again odd considering how much you seem to hate said devs but 🤷, I’m not the one on a crusade to get people off not the largest instance just the test one for reasons
Twisitng words again, you said “There’s a transphobia problem eith LW” I said “Not really because of my observations, but .ml does having an actual transphobe on the admin team here’s the receipts” then you went “I thought code was code!” At which point I clarified, “he’s on the admin team and that is what I was referring to and nothing about his code contributions”
And then here we are with you attempting to twist words to suit your narrative
Oh cool, it’s just a joke saying it’s the NK instance. Which no you didn’t you still tried to play off wasn’t said. But also on a crusade to crush it? Weird coincidence there.
I brought up flying squid as like all the troublesome mods left on their own not removed after numerous issues.
Right it’s only been years jl has been like this, totally fair to let the admins continue to leave them there even though are more authoritarian than ml.
Twisitng words again, you said “There’s a transphobia problem eith LW” I said “Not really because of my observations, but .ml does having an actual transphobe on the admin team here’s the receipts” then you went “I thought code was code!” At which point I clarified, “he’s on the admin team and that is what I was referring to and nothing about his code contributions”
No this is me pointing out the same similarities others have while also using your own words for why it’s okay for you to use it to siphon content, even though it’s from that dirty tankie place.
It’s just fun watching the logic here trying to go all in on both hating lemmy devs but using lemmy. Massive conundrum
For one, LW is 3x the size of .ml, naturally there are going to be more actions taken compared to .ml. it’s equivalent to people complaining about how “crime is so much worse in NYC then [Some Small Town]”.
Two, on .world moderators mod and admins admin, as it should be. By the time a .world admin is issuing something down it’s because a particular user has already been problematic in individual comms and getting temp bans already OR it’s a user spamming, posting ads or other harmful content (e.g. propaganda, misinformation (and even then, they let it go for a while longer than they should IMO))
Three, there’s no pattern of abuse to push a particular agenda, as I have demonstrated with .ml admins. At worst, you can drum up some poor decisions
Absolutely problematic, Jordanlund should be removed. That being said JL is a mod, not an admin at the end of the day.
It does not prove systemic abuse of a respected position of a leading instance to push an agenda, unlike what is proven with the .ml admins.
While it’s been 5 days, the LW admins should be given the time needed. Remember, it’s essentially a bunch of humans in volunteer positions, it’s not full time employment and removing such an integrated mod with large comms is no trivial task
They have acknowledged they are investigating and will take action.
I didn’t say anything about the code, Nutomic is an admin on .ml just as much as the rest of them
So far it’s according to you it’s okay for lw to be worse because it’s larger, but ml is still the lead instance even though they said it shouldn’t be and while they haven’t done anything about jl the entire time it’s okay?
And still according to you ml is the NK instance but still not bad enough to manually mirror content for reasons even though it’s just the NK tankie instance.
This is just one of many awful mods lw has which hasn’t been doing anything about they just seem to leave once called out or allowed to continue because reasons. See flying squid and news massive admitted zionists mods.
We’re over a week in to their supposed investigation and the only place they’ve said anything about it is db0 not the initial post show casing jls awful behavior to users.
You did again in this thread on why it was okay in your mind to use said NK instance material, again odd considering how much you seem to hate said devs but 🤷, I’m not the one on a crusade to get people off not the largest instance just the test one for reasons
You misunderstood completely, or more likely, twisting words to suit your narrative. It’s not worse, because there is no systemic pattern of abuse by the admins to push an agenda. As has been demonstrated with the .ml admins
LW admins don’t have the credentials that .ml admins do of being the devs. LW is the largest and should be held to a certain standard. Being the admins of .ml and main Lemmy devs holds them to an even higher standard. Average people will go “Lemmy.ml? Oh it’s an instance run by the developers themselves?” and forever have the association that lemmy.ml IS Lemmy therefore their harmful authoritarianism gets associated with all of Lemmy.
Even more insidious, quite a few instances that defederate from 2/3rds of the Triad don’t hold the same to .ml for many reason among them fear of retaliation.
I already admitted it to being a throwaway joke, if you can’t get over that oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They’re a Tankie instance instance through and through as per the wikipedia entry posted above.
Wherever you stand on FS, he hasn’t been a factor for Months now. As for these other “Zionist mods” where’s the receipts?
Again. LW, like nearly every other instance, is run by volunteers and donations. 5-10 business days for any business/paid service to make a major decision is what most people come to expect. And you want to hold people running a non-profit volunteer driven instance run in spare time to an even faster timeline than businesses are? That’s asinine.
Twisitng words again, you said “There’s a transphobia problem eith LW” I said “Not really because of my observations, but .ml does having an actual transphobe on the admin team here’s the receipts” then you went “I thought code was code!” At which point I clarified, “he’s on the admin team and that is what I was referring to and nothing about his code contributions”
And then here we are with you attempting to twist words to suit your narrative
Oh cool, it’s just a joke saying it’s the NK instance. Which no you didn’t you still tried to play off wasn’t said. But also on a crusade to crush it? Weird coincidence there.
I brought up flying squid as like all the troublesome mods left on their own not removed after numerous issues.
Right it’s only been years jl has been like this, totally fair to let the admins continue to leave them there even though are more authoritarian than ml.
No this is me pointing out the same similarities others have while also using your own words for why it’s okay for you to use it to siphon content, even though it’s from that dirty tankie place.
It’s just fun watching the logic here trying to go all in on both hating lemmy devs but using lemmy. Massive conundrum