Apple removed ICEBlock reportedly after direct pressure from Department of Justice officials. “I am incredibly disappointed by Apple's actions today. Capitulating to an authoritarian regime is never the right move,” the developer said.
Except we aren’t talking about the law. We are talking about corporations that sell you something and then retain control over it.
You have no say in the process, you have no representation. These are not rules that we as a society have determined to be in the best interests of all of us. These are unilateral decisions placed upon us. You have no recourse if you disagree other than don’t use the thing.
Guns don’t prevent you from doing anything. You still have the capability to do whatever you want with the thing. However, if you use it in a manner than harms someone else, in a way that we as a society have proposed, voted, and created laws prohibiting, then you deal with the consequences. But that is very different from having something in the gun that prevents it from taking ammo from another manufacturer. Or making it unable to shoot unless you pay a monthly fee.
Right, you can’t break the law. Gun manufacturers are very explicitly not responsible if you break the law with one of the items they manufactured.
This is more like the gun manufacturer coming back two years after you bought it and preventing you from using bullets from a vendor they don’t approve of.
No it’s not. When you buy a gun you’re not buying it with web connected software running it that is constantly updated and changed, and is actually a selling point, that you knew about when you bought it, and that you agreed to.
but the law is the law: just because you own something doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want with it.
it’s illegal to kill someone with a smartphone, too
Except we aren’t talking about the law. We are talking about corporations that sell you something and then retain control over it.
You have no say in the process, you have no representation. These are not rules that we as a society have determined to be in the best interests of all of us. These are unilateral decisions placed upon us. You have no recourse if you disagree other than don’t use the thing.
Guns don’t prevent you from doing anything. You still have the capability to do whatever you want with the thing. However, if you use it in a manner than harms someone else, in a way that we as a society have proposed, voted, and created laws prohibiting, then you deal with the consequences. But that is very different from having something in the gun that prevents it from taking ammo from another manufacturer. Or making it unable to shoot unless you pay a monthly fee.
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No. We weren’t. This discussion was about phones and the software we are being allowed to install on them.
The law does nothing to restrict us in that capacity. The restrictions are imposed by the manufacturer of the phone.
You made the fallacious false equivalency of comparing that with guns and laws.
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What makes you think the ICEBlock app removal is about the law or following the law?
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The guy you’re replying to celebrated the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, so I wouldn’t bother If I was you.
Right, you can’t break the law. Gun manufacturers are very explicitly not responsible if you break the law with one of the items they manufactured.
This is more like the gun manufacturer coming back two years after you bought it and preventing you from using bullets from a vendor they don’t approve of.
No it’s not. When you buy a gun you’re not buying it with web connected software running it that is constantly updated and changed, and is actually a selling point, that you knew about when you bought it, and that you agreed to.
Taking away functionality is a selling point? What a load of bullshit.