And you are not able to determine if the world is a delusion or some truth. There’s not an argument. It is facts. You do not know if the sun actually exists anymore than you can prove we’re not a hallucinating brain in a jar floating in space. You have no argument here. You can deny it. But that won’t change this. Truth exist. We don’t deal with Truths we deal with truths.
What matters is results. You’re not a good person if you allow bad people to win because you have a twisted moral or ethical stance that just doesn’t matter. Perception is king. The average right winger knows this. The left are out classed. There’s a real possibility they’ll never catch up and this current situation will be our future but worse
It doesn’t fail. How do you determine that? You just know cause it is? You have no argument here to say what you’re experiencing is not just some grand delusion or dream. Unless you know something I don’t. So what is it?
Here is how I know you can’t. Your answer will be a non answer, you’ll either walk away from this pretending you’re too good for this argument or you’ll say, it is because… You know like you can experience it. I already said the brain is capable of delusion and dreams and we know simulation theory isn’t new. So do you have some way to determine if it isn’t one of those things?
But guarantee you can’t provide a half decent honest argument. It’ll be some one liner or just hyperbole
Not hyperbole just fact. Like how none of this metaphysical crap about truth ever holds up the instant more than one observer of the same phenomenon occurs.
I’ve had this dumb argument several times before, and it always fails, determined simply by scientific observation, and the scientific method.
But yes, I am too good for this argument, because I’m not being dishonest with myself about the reality I live in.
And how do you know that other observer is not a p zombie or part of the hallucination.
All this to say that there is even though we want to deal with Truths it isn’t something we can deal with. We can only deal with our truths which is subjective, not objective. Bringing this all back. It’s what the right are amazing at. They work and put in effort to craft their truth and make others aware of it. The left fail because they believe their truth is going to spread on its own merits.
how do you know that other observer is not a p zombie or part of the hallucination.
Because p zombies are a poorly constructed philosophical concept, not a tangible reality.
The idea of something physically identical to humans but lacks consciousness is circular reasoning as the engagement of the physical body and the environment is what creates consciousness.
The same applies to hallucinations. Hallucinations require previous knowledge and interaction with emperical content. So even if you hallucinate the sun, that implies the existence of an actual sun you are hallucinating about.
Truths it isn’t something we can deal with. We can only deal with our truths which is subjective, not objective
That’s a self defeating argument. Stating that all truths are subjective implies that the statement itself is subjective.
I’m saying that there are two types of truths. One is what is reality but that we are forced to view it through our sense and mind and consciousness which can never actually grasp the real reality. That filter is what makes it a subjective truth. This is to my point that the right understand this and succeeded in a lot of areas the left don’t because of this. The left are very rigid and seen to fall on their own truth. I see it in arguments and online. They don’t mold things or play around with events the same way the right does. I think they don’t because of their relationship to what they see as true or not.
The way the right have reframed arguments about trans, racism, Jeffery Epstein, immigration, government needs to be better understood by the right. Not just called out but instead adapted.
It’s very literally the argument. Again your truth and mine don’t align on that which is more proof
Belief in nonsense is called “delusion”. So you go ahead and continue being delusional.
And you are not able to determine if the world is a delusion or some truth. There’s not an argument. It is facts. You do not know if the sun actually exists anymore than you can prove we’re not a hallucinating brain in a jar floating in space. You have no argument here. You can deny it. But that won’t change this. Truth exist. We don’t deal with Truths we deal with truths.
What matters is results. You’re not a good person if you allow bad people to win because you have a twisted moral or ethical stance that just doesn’t matter. Perception is king. The average right winger knows this. The left are out classed. There’s a real possibility they’ll never catch up and this current situation will be our future but worse
The very first sentence in this paragraph already fails. How do you expect me to take the rest seriously?
It doesn’t fail. How do you determine that? You just know cause it is? You have no argument here to say what you’re experiencing is not just some grand delusion or dream. Unless you know something I don’t. So what is it?
Here is how I know you can’t. Your answer will be a non answer, you’ll either walk away from this pretending you’re too good for this argument or you’ll say, it is because… You know like you can experience it. I already said the brain is capable of delusion and dreams and we know simulation theory isn’t new. So do you have some way to determine if it isn’t one of those things?
But guarantee you can’t provide a half decent honest argument. It’ll be some one liner or just hyperbole
Not hyperbole just fact. Like how none of this metaphysical crap about truth ever holds up the instant more than one observer of the same phenomenon occurs.
I’ve had this dumb argument several times before, and it always fails, determined simply by scientific observation, and the scientific method.
But yes, I am too good for this argument, because I’m not being dishonest with myself about the reality I live in.
And how do you know that other observer is not a p zombie or part of the hallucination.
All this to say that there is even though we want to deal with Truths it isn’t something we can deal with. We can only deal with our truths which is subjective, not objective. Bringing this all back. It’s what the right are amazing at. They work and put in effort to craft their truth and make others aware of it. The left fail because they believe their truth is going to spread on its own merits.
Because p zombies are a poorly constructed philosophical concept, not a tangible reality.
The idea of something physically identical to humans but lacks consciousness is circular reasoning as the engagement of the physical body and the environment is what creates consciousness.
The same applies to hallucinations. Hallucinations require previous knowledge and interaction with emperical content. So even if you hallucinate the sun, that implies the existence of an actual sun you are hallucinating about.
That’s a self defeating argument. Stating that all truths are subjective implies that the statement itself is subjective.
I’m saying that there are two types of truths. One is what is reality but that we are forced to view it through our sense and mind and consciousness which can never actually grasp the real reality. That filter is what makes it a subjective truth. This is to my point that the right understand this and succeeded in a lot of areas the left don’t because of this. The left are very rigid and seen to fall on their own truth. I see it in arguments and online. They don’t mold things or play around with events the same way the right does. I think they don’t because of their relationship to what they see as true or not.
The way the right have reframed arguments about trans, racism, Jeffery Epstein, immigration, government needs to be better understood by the right. Not just called out but instead adapted.