More like Democrats see the progressives as the scorpion.
If giving up means you then screw over everyone else that says more about you, than anyone else. It may be reality, but it’s no justification.
Neoliberalism is no where near as popular as it used to be. The neoliberal faction is about as weak as it has ever been since they came to dominate the party back in the 1990’s. It’s not really fair to say Democrats refuse to abandon neoliberalism when there’s plenty of Democrats actively working to move the party away from neoliberalism for decades, and especially now when they are finally at a place where it looks like it could really happen.
It’s not really fair to say Democrats refuse to abandon neoliberalism when there’s plenty of Democrats actively working to move the party away from neoliberalism for decades, and especially now when they are finally at a place where it looks like it could really happen.
I’ve heard this too many times to ever believe mere words from democrats. I’ve seen their actions and those indicate that the party has only changed for the worse.
But the democrats are the ones that have an organization in place in the U.S. that can affect change. Those with more progressive ideals keep stinging them and they sink. As a result we have right wing fascism. Congrats.
What you’re saying only makes sense if you think all leftists refuse to vote, or 100% vote for third parties. This is not even close to reality. Libs love to tell me I’m a Trump supporting liar, but I have voted Democrat my entire adult life, including for Harris and in local piddly elections. Not because I think centrist liberal policies are good but because our broken system forces me to, in the hopes that maybe their platform will grow a spine or a conscious and realize caring for your people is worth more than making a buck.
Other nations with less power and resources than us have figured out how to be progressive, what is our problem? It sure as shit isn’t the people calling for progress.
Its not a matter of 100%. It’s a matter of any. The critical votes have been very close. It’s also if you convince others not to vote or vote 3rd party. So criticizing the democrats has to be done carefully in the right context.
And the trick would be removing money from politics; and removing money controlled bias of mass media.
Oh no those mean leftists they hurt the DNC by… not giving them votes they think they were entitled to…
You need to understand that the leftist protest voters did not meaningfully impact the election. That is a fact, and if you want to live in the same reality as the rest of us, you need to internalize that fact. This was DNC propaganda made to make you hate young people and leftist ideology. It’s time to break that conditioning.
If you would like to be upset about the votes Harris was “owed” then be mad at the white and hispanic boomers that stayed home for Harris after coming out to vote for Biden.
It was literally liberal voters that failed the Democratic party. I’m a leftist and I voted for Kamala but all of us leftist combined on lemmy wasn’t going to make a difference
More like Democrats see the progressives as the scorpion.
If giving up means you then screw over everyone else that says more about you, than anyone else. It may be reality, but it’s no justification.
Yeah, you can try supporting leftists, or you can keep stinging.
Neoliberalism isn’t a popular ideology anymore.
And yet democrats refuse to abandon it.
Neoliberalism is no where near as popular as it used to be. The neoliberal faction is about as weak as it has ever been since they came to dominate the party back in the 1990’s. It’s not really fair to say Democrats refuse to abandon neoliberalism when there’s plenty of Democrats actively working to move the party away from neoliberalism for decades, and especially now when they are finally at a place where it looks like it could really happen.
I’ve heard this too many times to ever believe mere words from democrats. I’ve seen their actions and those indicate that the party has only changed for the worse.
But the democrats are the ones that have an organization in place in the U.S. that can affect change. Those with more progressive ideals keep stinging them and they sink. As a result we have right wing fascism. Congrats.
What you’re saying only makes sense if you think all leftists refuse to vote, or 100% vote for third parties. This is not even close to reality. Libs love to tell me I’m a Trump supporting liar, but I have voted Democrat my entire adult life, including for Harris and in local piddly elections. Not because I think centrist liberal policies are good but because our broken system forces me to, in the hopes that maybe their platform will grow a spine or a conscious and realize caring for your people is worth more than making a buck.
Other nations with less power and resources than us have figured out how to be progressive, what is our problem? It sure as shit isn’t the people calling for progress.
Its not a matter of 100%. It’s a matter of any. The critical votes have been very close. It’s also if you convince others not to vote or vote 3rd party. So criticizing the democrats has to be done carefully in the right context.
And the trick would be removing money from politics; and removing money controlled bias of mass media.
“Oh shit he’s a Harris voter. Okay backup plan, accuse him of undermining voting with no evidence”
Literally every time, man. It’s so predictable.
It’s simple logic. I didn’t accuse you of anything. I just stated my point.
Oh no those mean leftists they hurt the DNC by… not giving them votes they think they were entitled to…
You need to understand that the leftist protest voters did not meaningfully impact the election. That is a fact, and if you want to live in the same reality as the rest of us, you need to internalize that fact. This was DNC propaganda made to make you hate young people and leftist ideology. It’s time to break that conditioning.
If you would like to be upset about the votes Harris was “owed” then be mad at the white and hispanic boomers that stayed home for Harris after coming out to vote for Biden.
It was literally liberal voters that failed the Democratic party. I’m a leftist and I voted for Kamala but all of us leftist combined on lemmy wasn’t going to make a difference
You understand your lack of vote made my death as a trans person orders or magnitude more likely
I voted for Harris you idiot
Let’s all help the fascists and then pretend it’s a moral imperative
Edit: I love the block feature. Tankies can scream into the void all they want.
That’s centrists’ position on Palestine, yes.
EDIT: democrats and ignoring the left. Name a more perfect tautology.