• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social
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    6 hours ago

    umm, that’s 40 years ago you’re talking about, and it was Harry Truman who came after, so I say it was sinking gradually since then.

    Yeah, pretty much. Because things got good and people stopped fighting.

    This whole model where “the assholes in power are doing corrupt things and don’t look out for the people” is this shocking surprise, and leads to us needing to disengage from the whole system even more, is wrong. Fight for what you need. That is the way.

    I don’t really care about labor rights that much in this discussion, but I strongly doubt that you can achieve any by “voting blue, no matter who”

    Good thing I never said that. What I was saying is that “Vote no, no matter who” is a bunch of garbage probably equally unproductive to this elaborate strawman of “vote blue no matter who.”

    The example of FDR only shows that your party has been infiltrated and needs a purge of some kind

    Yeah, pretty much. If we could start with Schumer and Pelosi that would be great.

    Tell me, does “the leftest end of the party refuses to vote anymore” leads to the party moving left? Or right? I can’t remember. Is that a good way to purge the centrists, by withdrawing the leftist input? Maybe there is some kind of history from 1968 - 1992 that I can look to. Or maybe the history of the Democrats since 1992?