• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Why don’t you think that? Wouldn’t it make sense that convincing groups to decimate and alienate themselves from the main body would benefit them politically? Or is this just a case of the left going off of vibes hopes and dreams

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        Liberals call Trump a communist on daily basis. Why should we trust these malicious and stupid people who can’t even differentiate socialism from fascism?

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        17 hours ago

        Liberals don’t help us. They have been in power before and do absolutely nothing.

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            Liberals arent a singular group

            They are when your definition of a liberal is material rather than aesthetic.

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        I don’t think the rich are creating communist orgs that accurately explain the problems today just to divide liberals from the left, considering liberalism by nature already supports the system the capitalists profit off of. If anything, your suggestion is going off of vibes, hopes, and dreams.

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          15 hours ago

          I didn’t say they were creating them. I am saying they’re targeting groups with more passion than brains

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            The rich do manipulate liberals into thinking they can get meaningful change through electoralism, but I don’t see what that has to do with leftists.

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              Yep. They want you to replace the rightwing, pro-corporate government with another right-wing, pro-corporate government.

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              Wow incredible. It’s like speaking to a trump supporter. Weird how your opinion parallels theirs. It’s almost like it’s coming from the same place

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                This is just lazy rhetoric equating me to people we both don’t like. Why is it that you claim my opinion is similar to theirs? They voted for their guy, and he’s in office, no? Seems they think electoralism does work.

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                  14 hours ago

                  Because they were manipulated and coaxed into moving the needle right. It’s your turn now and the fact your opinion is the same as theirs prior to 2016 is just more examples of this. Lemmy is severely astro-turfed. The longer I’m on here the more evident it is. .ml is a place to workshop for these groups. Just like r/the_donald was

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                    My opinion isn’t the same as Trump supporters prior to 2016, this is another case where you just make an accusation without backing anything up. I don’t have any power over any “needle.” You have no evidence that Lemmy is astroturfed, you’re trying to rationalize why your opinions are unpopular here by inventing conspiracy theories.