Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a “big tent” after a Debian developer objected to the company’s sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.

Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.

Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a “toxic and hateful community,” Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.

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    But now that you are aware but you choose to bury your head in the sand. Okay…

    We already know people like you already made up your mind. What’s the point of this comment? Was this post going to stop you?

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      To be honest i just read some abbreviations and terms i dont understand and I really do not have the time to go down the rabbit hole.

      I just wanted to add a viewpoint to the discussion that the potential commercial target group larger is than the bubble in which some of the people here seem to be. I find this legitimate.

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        Framework has directly and indirectly supported devs that are far right, one much more hard right than the other, but both are far right.

        The direct is money. Indirect is marketing.

        You don’t really need to dig into anything here, those two sentences sums up the entire situation.

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          Thanks for the clarification. In the face of modern debates there is only black and white - if you’re not like us, surely you’re like them. I don’t find it cool that they support right ideologies.

          I’m against it and I will keep it in mind for future consideration, but supporting the right surely is not the extent of the things they have done or what they are actively doing.

          Where there’s light, there’s shadow and the message for right to repair and their exemplary designs for repairability also has an impact on society as a whole.

          I can find it shitty that they support people who I disagree with ideologically and great that they make repairable and sustainable products.

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            I absolutely agree that its great that they support the right to repair. That is, to me, what makes the response here so disappointing.

            I personally do not want my money to feed the far right, and the simple fact is, that is where a portion of framework purchasing is going. These are not projects where there is a person or two within a large group who are far right, but projects where they are the project fundamentally. What throws me as well is the choice of Hyprland (financially) and Omarchy (marketing - heavy, heavy marketing). Even more odd, DHH again with Rails World with an alarming amount of money - five times what they gave to the Linux Foundation, double what they gave to Gnome, 2.5 times what they gave to the Linux Vendor Firmware Service, 50 times what they gave to the Open Hardware Summit, 12 times what they gave to KDE Akademy and DebConf…

            Writing that out makes it feel even weirder. Rails World. How in the hell does Rails World even fit in with what Framework does?

            It isn’t just supporting a few shitty people in a mix of other things, its far outsized support.

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                Plenty of right wingers get one thing right, and being able to repair something isnt inherently anti-capitalist either.

                Edit: To quote someone I just saw on the FW forum, who is 100% a DHH supporting right winger:

                Not necessarily. Right to repair is of course positive for the environment as it reduces waste. But I think that’s a consequential effect rather than main objective.

                They see the main object as saving money. Which… is really funny to me, because the most cost effective would be to sell your whatever laptop after a few years and buy new, framework is nowhere near a cost effective choice.

                But anyway.

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                https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships

                This is the blog post where you’ll see the money. DHH is Omarchy and Rails, Vaxry is Hyprland. Hyprland got, functionally, a pittance, and Vaxry (while on the right) I don’t personally see as being anywhere near as terrible as DHH.

                If you want to know about DHH, rather than read articles, you can look at his blog directly. - https://world.hey.com/dhh. Scan the titles of posts and you’ll find his positions pretty quickly, and you can read the posts themselves where he references the white replacement conspiracy theory and more.