Snapping issue(s)
Update: we were back at the vet yesterday and she suspects upper back and hip pains. We need to see a specialist now but hopefully we have solutions for her.
I’ve had a few related snapping (biting - without contact intent) issues. I got a corgi at one year old from a breeder who wanted to breed with her but she would snap at judges at dog shows when being handled so couldn’t breed with her. She is now 3.5 years old.
It took about 4-5 months for this to be an issue with us. She would snap at us mostly centered around later at night and when on or around a couch / sleeping space. It seemed to be she was tired and grumpy. The trigger was various. Moving a blanket, making noise, scratching sound, or simply getting up. I suspected she also could have had pain issues. But in anycase I managed the issue with no pets and she’s not allowed on the couch after 1900-2000 at night. It seemed to mostly work. She seemed to have also slight possive issues when it came to me or my partners. We managed this, also mostly with success. These issues would be worse around when she was in heat. Extra care was taken then. We had some success.
No or minimal snapping happened for the last 4-6 months. Long term it seemed to be getting better but comes in waves. Here comes something new. She has always loved being petted. Like you could pet her for hours and she would only want more. Everyday she wants pets. This was never a issue other than when it was late at night. But now she snaps when getting pets. She will want pets, come for pets, when I ask if she wants pets she will confirm, then within 3 seconds to 2 minutes of petting she will snap. And fairly viciously. But no contact. Just communication.
The snapping doesn’t seem to have a trigger other than pets. It does not matter where on her body she is being petted, nor the pressure or lightness of the pets. Time of the day is irrelevant. It has happened in various locations around the house also at my partners apartment and to various people. It can happen alone or when other people are there.
I promise you, she wants pets and asks for them. She knows “do you want some pets” and says yes, or more pets with pawing. I’m missing something and I don’t know what. It came out of nowhere about 7 days ago and was immediately a 100% of the time thing when getting petted. So she simply doesn’t get pets for now which she is hating and clearly doesn’t understand. Myself also because for the last 2 years it was her number 1 joy in life.
Other than this, she’s mostly herself. She’s eating fine, goes on walks like normal, pees and poops like normal. My first thought was she would be in heat soon, but that shouldn’t happen until December.
We have been to 2 different vets probably a total of 16 times. They say she is healthy (she also snaps at them, but I’m sure you were expecting that). We went to a dog school but they were very soso, and we now see a private dog trainer who is fan freaking fantastic. Dog training is also something I’m better than average at, but I’m not afraid to ask for help from others.
My gut says some underlying pain issue that is expressing itself as aggressive behavior when for whatever reason the pain is worse.
Whats your thoughts lovely lemmy peeps. (other then don’t pet her).
The dogs name is Emily and she’s a Corgi
lovely reddit peeps
really?
Copy-pasting from your Reddit post and not replacing Reddit with Lemmy?
Believe it or not, instant ban! /j
Sorry! Copy paste
Oh, snap!
Bad corgie
I’m no corgi master, but sudden snapping like what you’re describing could be a pain thing. Corgis are prone to spinal issues and they might be developing pain which results into he corgi snapping at you.
chech your corgi for potential pain around its spine. could also be when it’s relaxing more, hence the night time issues moreso. hopefully it’s a nerve issue and not the actual spine itself.
my friend had a similar issue with their dog, walkerhound. spine issues causing nerve pain. their dog did end up paralyzed and as much as I don’t believe it, acupuncture ended up literally unparalyzing their dog and they had minimal issues since. only 1 repeat visit to get acupuncture. I’m still shocked it actually helped as I don’t believe in acupuncture anymore then I wood a good massage to fix human sciatica.
I’m thinking pain too, or fear of pain. I’d say OP needs to take the dog to the vet for a proper exam instead of speculations by us strangers on the internet.
They said they took it to the vet
Yes. Thank you. We have been to the vet, many times for this. I still suspect pain issues, but two different general vets plus a specialist say no.
Edit: we were at the vet again yesterday and the doctor suspects… Pain issues. Upper back and hips.
Oops, I’m sorry. I’d keep investigating that avenue though. Pain or fear of pain. Or fear of something else.
She would snap at us mostly centered around later at night and when on or around a couch / sleeping space. It seemed to be she was tired and grumpy.
Small dog syndrome…
It’s not that they’re dicks, it’s that they’re fragile and need to protect themselves.
It’s really bad when sleeping, because rolling over on them could hurt them. Another pet (even if big) is a lot different than a human. Like a 60 pound dog might be 6x the Corgi’s size. But 120lb human is twice that. That’s why it’s fine with petting, or chilling a lap when it knows the human is awake, petting shows them you’re paying attention and makes them feel secure enough to sleep on/next to you
You might want to get a kennel and leave the door open, or get some other area that’s just for the corgi, and no one ever goes around/in it. But understand if you follow her, and then she snaps the problem is you and not the dog.
If the issue is lack of feeling secure, the corgi will quickly adopt the “safe” area that’s just for them, and when it feels like it needs security instead of “defending” their existing area with snaps, it’ll just retreat to the “safe” area, at which point you leave it alone.
Your dog is showing you what their boundaries are, and you’re asking how to safely ignore those boundaries…
Just respect the boundaries and everything will be fine.
Have you considered something like anti anxiety meds? My dog is on fluoxetine (Prozac) and it helps greatly with his noise sensitivities.
No, but that’s interesting and worth a try.