• PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social
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      19 hours ago

      Everyone except Bernie Sanders and a couple of other kooks. But yes, everyone else.

      Young people don’t realize how far things have moved left in American politics in the last 20 years, with Palestinian people in congress now and socialists running for president, and even people having big protests now without instantly just getting tackled and arrested by the NYPD by the hundreds and then stuffed in a warehouse.

      It’s still bad enough that I understand how people can’t grasp it and just assume “everything’s moving to the right all the time every year,” because that’s sort of what it feels like, but it’s not what’s happening.

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          19 hours ago

          I mean conservatives have held power since Carter. He was the last non-conservative president we had, he actually tried to reign in the CIA and get Israel to stop killing Arabs in a big way, among other things. Biden was actually way further left than the norm, if that tells you anything.

          We took a massive tumble with Reagan/Clinton, and then ever since then, we’ve been crawling our way back up towards some kind of humanity in government an inch at a time.

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            Biden literally split with the democratic party to stop desegregation. He was always one of the most conservative dems.

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              Yeah, he co-sponsored the bill alongside Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. He was giving speeches for segregation while Bernie was getting arrested at civil rights protests. That was pretty much my exact point: The Democrats were the segregation party up until an instant before Biden got his start, and then he went from that and the crime bill, to thirty years later doing all this semi-progressive stuff as president. He is certainly not left in any real sense, but he was raising corporate tax and working on climate change instead of getting up talking about “super predators” and wanting to bomb Nicaragua with congress’s full support and things like that.