• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    I watched the video. I’m not arguing that it is the same skull used by the Nazi SS. I’m arguing that specific skull wasn’t created by the Nazis (here it is on an 18th century pirate flag) and it wasn’t used last by the Nazis (here it is on a US special forces patch used in Vietnam) .

    The US military has used all sorts of eagles, swords, crosses, skulls, double lightning bolts, etc over the years that were also used by Nazis at some point. I just don’t think it is reasonable to say he’s a Nazi based on this tattoo alone in the absolute absence of any other evidence of any sort.

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      14 hours ago

      here it is on an 18th century pirate flag

      that one is an entirely dissimilar skull and cross bones

      here it is on a US special forces patch

      that one is 100% intentionally the SS-Totenkopf

      I just don’t think it is reasonable to say he’s a Nazi based on this tattoo alone

      I’m not saying he necessarily secretly considers himself a Nazi, but he does have an unambiguously Nazi tattoo and his explicit claim that he was totally clueless about its meaning for 18 years is simply not believable (especially in light of other evidence, like his reddit posts defending other solders’ double lightning bolt tattoos).

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        7 hours ago

        Yea, it is unambiguously a Nazi tattoo. It is also just as accurate to say it is a pirate tattoo or a Vietnam era special forces tattoo. Personally, I just don’t see it as automatically damning in itself.

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      16 hours ago

      There’s just no way the US military allowed Nazi symbology to proliferate amongst its ranks. That’s certainly never happened before. We’re the good guys /s

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        7 hours ago

        It could be that, or it could also be that the Nazis copied some of this stuff from the US. They admired our treatment of black people and borrowed a lot from us.