This is a great write up and analysis. It does make me wonder why there are big names associating themselves with this when it seems to really be a big mess under all the cool colors not to say anything of the garbage that comes out of the developer himself.
But maybe it all speaks to a way to improve upon and move past Omarchy. There is clearly a group of people that want to use or at least try Arch and Linux in general, but don’t really know how. Providing a highly configured Arch setup, that looks cool, actually delivers on security, that is created by people that understand systems, that still allows for the freedom of choice that Linux provides, and that aren’t developed by a scumbag could be a big hit.
I’m very happy that the people in this thread are very reasonable. It’s refreshing. You guys rock🤟
What I discovered upon closer inspection, however, is that Omarchy’s firewall doesn’t actually run, despite its pre-configured ruleset.
lol, oops
The author spared absolutely no punches, god damn!
Honestly, refreshing. Now I only need everyone who’s breathlessly advertising that pile of dotfiles to actually read this.Whole point of this “distro” is that it comes with bloat preinstalled?
A few exmples:
ChatGPT, Discord, Docker, Figma, GitHub, Google Contacts, Google Messages, Google Photos, HEY, Kdenlive, OBS Studio, Obsidian, Signal, Spotify, Typora, WhatsApp, X, YouTube, Zoom???
Wtf… Why
“Hey” is an email thingy run by the company that DHH owns.
the rest of those “apps” are probably thrown in to make the list seem more complete. the real goal is to promote his paid email service.
I’ve spent uncomfortably long trying to figure out what “figma balls” means, or what the obvious answer is when I eventually ask “what’s figma”.
Figma is a ui design tool haha. No relation ligma luckily.
most of those “apps” also just open up a link in the browser…
I meam it’s very openly a very opinionated distro
edit: not dirstro but arch install script
As the linked article says, it’s not so much “opinionated” as “unconfigured” with a bunch of
stuffbloat that DHH thought looked cool thrown in. It doesn’t even ship with Ruby or Rails - a “distro” by the creator of Rails doesn’t ship with Rails pre-installed.
I love the icing on the cake
BTW: A quick shout out to your favorite tech influencer, who probably has at least one video reviewing the Omarchy project without mentioning anything along these lines. It is unfortunate that these influential people barely scratch the surface on a topic like this, and it is even more saddening that recording a 30 minute video of someone clicking around on a UI seemingly counts as a legitimate “review” these days. The primary focus for many of these people is seemingly on pumping out content and generating hype for views and attention rather than providing a thoughtful, thorough analysis.
A big thanks goes to the author. I really like the post. At least 99% of it, I think sudo is ok, docker is ok as well, I wouldn’t use it but we are all free to choose our tools.
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Tldr but the article’s author seems to not know / mention Omarchy is developed by a raging racist?
That’s probably a good choice, since it makes a perfect response to “politics shouldn’t matter, here, just merit.” Turns out…
And the merit of dhh is highly tarnished by him being an overall piece of shit. No, politics always matters.
And it also should come into focus when it’s about a highly opinionated piece of software
I agree that creating is inherently political, because politics pervades creation whether we choose the politics or not, but that’s not a useful argument after somebody says “it doesn’t matter to me.” If you want to get into that shouting match, it’s your time to waste.
My point is that, behind the garbage philosophy, we also now know that it’s garbage technology, so all these people telling us about their utopian meritocracy where we just ignore bigotry are exposed as full of it. Cloudflare, Framework, and so forth, are not only OK with Great Replacement rhetoric, but also incapable of telling solid software from broken, and that’s a stronger indictment than just trying to drag the conversation back to the bigotry.
Ooh that’s a strong argument. Kudos!
yes they should talk about it but that’s not what he’s reviewing. He’s focusing on the hype around the OS and if its even deserving of that. Why would a tech review bring in politics, it would come off as him just hating dhh and some would wave him off as a “hater”. I think the fact that he’s just talking about the software gives him credibility and shows that dhh is just a shit developer when it comes to operating systems. There’s already enough pieces about how he might be a shit human being but not enough about if he’s deserving of his merit just because he helped developed ruby on rails.
sure sure, but the review is about an OPINIONATED SOFTWARE e.g. the Opinions of DHH. So of course it should be part of the review.
A shit opinion of Dhh is for example, that you can’t partition or use a partition as the target in the install script and have to sacrifice an entire disk…
opinionated software is about how you think software should behave. its not about personal world views related to how a person thinks other people should be treated in the real world.
the article is just about reviewing the OS (and if it can even call itself a linux distro). Its not about dhh himself, plenty of threads and posts about him out there already.
I’m not clicking on a link that looks like someone typed it in by putting their head on the keyboard
Your loss
Welcome to today’s 10,000. Today’s episode is about Punycode. It’s basically a standardized way of putting unusual characters in a domain name.
The way the link is shown in your interface/client, it’s giving you the encoded version that looks nonsensical. But if you click on it, the link in your browser’s address bar will more likely render properly.
I’ve seen this done with URLs that contain emojis, this one contains katakana (?) characters.
if you click on it, the link in your browser’s address bar will more likely render properly.
The default on librewolf (and possibly Firefox?) is to show the punycode in the URL bar since rendering the international characters can be used as a way to create phishing URLs that look similar (and sometimes identical) to characters in the latin alphabet. This is a very dangerous feature since the URL bar of the phishing site can look identical to the real website address.
To enable the display of the alternate character sets represented by the punycode URLs, you have to set
network.IDN_show_punycodeto false inabout:config.Oh that’s a good point. I have only ever encountered these on Lemmy or similar places where you are clearly clicking a link that starts with “xn——————“ and then seeing how it ties together on my phone’s browser.
Maybe we shouldn’t be using these. I did find myself looking at domains with emojis in them, weirdly enough for someone who doesn’t use or really like them. But the fact that this extends to basically any Unicode character is an absolute security black hole.
Unless the standard is extended to have more guardrails/to make it impossible to resolve domains with the most egregious fake characters. Or better, to make characters interchangeable the same way domains aren’t case-sensitive.
The learning curve for understanding the actual web and its protocols looks more and more insurmountable to me every day lol
indeed, katakana. the actual website name is “マリウス”, which I’m guessing means “Marius”.
@ggtdbz @Hello_there The author actually has a post on this, too: https://マリウス.com/never-click-on-a-link-that-looks-like-that/
(I’m guessing you deliberately avoided it since the person you’re responding to would also refuse to click that but I think it’s an interesting read for anyone who hasn’t seen it)
