While I do agree (much to the dismay of many of you all here) that it is absolutely unfair to biological women to allow non biological women in competitive sports, due to the advantages that can’t go away by chemical means such as larger lungs, longer arms, and bigger hands with more stable hip bones; if I were this kid, who is apparently quite strong and athletic, I would try and have loads of fun screwing with the system they’re forcing upon him. He could really screw with them on policies. I’d imagine he could get loads of classmates to go along with helping him out, too.
The idea that women need “protection” from competing with men was always more about control than it ever was about fairness. The argument of women somehow being physically worse at sports is just not accurate in many cases. Actually there are a lot of sports in which women have an inherent advantage over men.
Yes, men on average have higher bone density, greater muscle mass and larger lung capacity. However women tend to on average have a more efficient fat metabolism, better cold tolerance, a lower center of gravity, higher flexibility and more stable fine motor control. Also some people tend to beat the odds and win despite supposedly being at a disadvantage.
Is this argumentative or trolling? It has no bearing on real life.
you can’t require mixed gender teams on the theory that a few outliers will succeed despite gender differences
yes, you could argue women have an advantage in bendiness sports like gymnastics. You might have noticed gymnastics are segregated and men and women compete in different variations where the other gender is unlikely to succeed
those physical benefits have not overcome the size and strength differences pretty much anywhere. I think I read maybe ultramarathons but there’s not yet enough women insane enough to try.
Ok, fine. If you need a list here’s a list. Women excel in any type of endurance swimming, anything involving riding a horse, rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating, long distance running, shooting, archery, and sailing-sports.
Women and women’s teams also regularly beat men at: tennis, racing, soccer, basketball and wrestling (also highscool, college and Olympic-style amateur wrestling, not just the scripted WWE theatre thing). Want sources for all of those? Because I’ve got all of them.
I’m not wanting to “require mixed gender teams”, but I do feel like there are many better options out there than strict gender or “sex at birth” based segregation. Especially since we know nowadays that sex at birth has so many more than 2 categories and gender is a spectrum. I’m sick and tired of people of many different genders (and especially women) being victimized for the sake of “protecting women”. And I have sources for that too.
Certainly kids should be treated as human beings and the rules need to make allowance for the messiness of real life and do “the right thing”.
But you’re really fighting an uphill battle against essentially all of society if you think all sports should be desegregated. And you’re really misreading your stats if you don’t see that on average a specific gender has a distinct advantage in most sports
You are still fighting a straw man here. Please point me to where I said all sports should be desegregated? It’s a very complicated issue and trying to segregate into 2 strict groups by sex at birth is a very messy, very imperfect solution. What some doctor thought was going on when they looked between a newborn’s legs is just not nearly as important as some other factors.
To give an example of a split I would be in favor of: Segregation based on factors relevant to the sport (like height and how far people can throw a ball for basketball). You can split into as many groups as needed and hey, if you’re right it’ll work out to an even gender split anyway, right? This just happens to be a way more inclusive way of doing things also avoids the weird situation of minors being harassed about their gender expression. Unless of course you want to specifically make people uncomfortable and want to exclude certain people. But that’s not the point you’re arguing, right?
Yeah. That’s absolutely just not true at all for almost every sport. Especially team sports. There are some competitive sports where men don’t just have an advantage, or that women have the advantage, but those are a vast minority. Some shooting events and some distance events is about it.
It’s fine to disagree with us here, but you also “disagree” with everyone who knows anything about the subject, and that is why your head is stuck so far up your own asshole.
This information is readily available. You decided that instead of listening to the IOC or physiologists you’d stick your head WAY up inside your own rectum. It’s not my job to pull it out.
While I do agree (much to the dismay of many of you all here) that it is absolutely unfair to biological women to allow non biological women in competitive sports, due to the advantages that can’t go away by chemical means such as larger lungs, longer arms, and bigger hands with more stable hip bones; if I were this kid, who is apparently quite strong and athletic, I would try and have loads of fun screwing with the system they’re forcing upon him. He could really screw with them on policies. I’d imagine he could get loads of classmates to go along with helping him out, too.
Hey. Touch grass.
The idea that women need “protection” from competing with men was always more about control than it ever was about fairness. The argument of women somehow being physically worse at sports is just not accurate in many cases. Actually there are a lot of sports in which women have an inherent advantage over men.
Yes, men on average have higher bone density, greater muscle mass and larger lung capacity. However women tend to on average have a more efficient fat metabolism, better cold tolerance, a lower center of gravity, higher flexibility and more stable fine motor control. Also some people tend to beat the odds and win despite supposedly being at a disadvantage.
Is this argumentative or trolling? It has no bearing on real life.
Ok, fine. If you need a list here’s a list. Women excel in any type of endurance swimming, anything involving riding a horse, rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating, long distance running, shooting, archery, and sailing-sports.
Women and women’s teams also regularly beat men at: tennis, racing, soccer, basketball and wrestling (also highscool, college and Olympic-style amateur wrestling, not just the scripted WWE theatre thing). Want sources for all of those? Because I’ve got all of them.
I’m not wanting to “require mixed gender teams”, but I do feel like there are many better options out there than strict gender or “sex at birth” based segregation. Especially since we know nowadays that sex at birth has so many more than 2 categories and gender is a spectrum. I’m sick and tired of people of many different genders (and especially women) being victimized for the sake of “protecting women”. And I have sources for that too.
Certainly kids should be treated as human beings and the rules need to make allowance for the messiness of real life and do “the right thing”.
But you’re really fighting an uphill battle against essentially all of society if you think all sports should be desegregated. And you’re really misreading your stats if you don’t see that on average a specific gender has a distinct advantage in most sports
You are still fighting a straw man here. Please point me to where I said all sports should be desegregated? It’s a very complicated issue and trying to segregate into 2 strict groups by sex at birth is a very messy, very imperfect solution. What some doctor thought was going on when they looked between a newborn’s legs is just not nearly as important as some other factors.
To give an example of a split I would be in favor of: Segregation based on factors relevant to the sport (like height and how far people can throw a ball for basketball). You can split into as many groups as needed and hey, if you’re right it’ll work out to an even gender split anyway, right? This just happens to be a way more inclusive way of doing things also avoids the weird situation of minors being harassed about their gender expression. Unless of course you want to specifically make people uncomfortable and want to exclude certain people. But that’s not the point you’re arguing, right?
Yeah. That’s absolutely just not true at all for almost every sport. Especially team sports. There are some competitive sports where men don’t just have an advantage, or that women have the advantage, but those are a vast minority. Some shooting events and some distance events is about it.
It’s fine to disagree with us here, but you also “disagree” with everyone who knows anything about the subject, and that is why your head is stuck so far up your own asshole.
Seems like I know plenty about the subject. To the point where all you can do is try and sling insults instead of forming any sort of argument.
This information is readily available. You decided that instead of listening to the IOC or physiologists you’d stick your head WAY up inside your own rectum. It’s not my job to pull it out.
But it is fun to point and laugh. 😉
The physiologists agree with me, buddy.
😂