Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.
Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.
Propaganda’s a hell of a drug. I’ve been there, and it takes a lot of introspection to break free of it, but that’s something that can absolutely happen in the middle of a military contract - especially if you’re spurred awake by your own president taking food off your table. I’ve got a lot less faith in the military’s ability to say no to illegal orders after seeing troops sent to invade US cities; but even if they’ve chosen a misguided as fuck career path from some sense of patriotism, that doesn’t put all of them in full stormtrooper territory.
This isn’t an “oh no, the poor troops!” situation, its a “the man giving you orders is an enemy of the US, and now his attacks on our nation are effecting YOU.” situation.
If this is what it takes to slap some sense into them, I’d say don’t waste the opportunity on dehumanizing them: that line of people all swore an oath to defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic. We’re literally paying them to defend us from people like Trump - this might just be the push that one of them needs to act on that oath.
The military has a ton of potential to do what’s right, despite them having thus far chosen to do what’s easy. I’d encourage any active duty reading this to carefully consider your oath and the forces currently at play against our country, from both inside and out.
Threat is subjective, that’s the problem. Some people don’t see the s threat. Some people, the bloodthirsty, boot licking kind who signed up for the military most definitely do not see any kind of problem.
This is never going to be one of those situations where people in the military band together and save the country from evil. This isn’t a movie. Those people will literally mow down their neighbor without batting an eye if they can get a few extra slices of bread. Every last person who has ever touched the military service is the bottom of humanity.
Do you know anything about the military?
One of the biggest draws for people is the paycheck, a lot see military service as a way out of poverty. It’s like one of their main points for recruitment…
Right, exactly. The paycheck is not just this week the paycheck is Mortgage rates, Interest rate rates on loans, Education funding,etc.
They will never give that up. They will mow down parking lots of people for that mortgage rate, especially now that Trump is screaming about 50 year mortgages
Half of them would kill for a beer
So leverage it. We don’t need the military to band together in an act of unified defiance, we need a single one of them to start paying attention to those doubts spinning around in their noggin and do what they’re being paid for.
Yeah some people join because they’re horrible people that get off to committing crimes against humanity; but others join because they’ve been duped into thinking it’s the right thing to do. Being evil is something to hold against someone; being duped isn’t. Again, propaganda’s a hell of a drug, but this is a potentially powerful teaching moment.
Stop looking at the military as a single personality - some of those are potential allies.
OK, feel free to give me instructions on how I can leverage it. Meanwhile I’m working on emigration, fuck this place.
You saw my previous two posts: stick with an assumption that they joined over some logic that’s actually defensible like a sense of patriotism; and point out that they can still act on the duty they agreed to.
That oath carries a lot of weight for some of them. So far, not enough weight to spur them into action, but calling them murderers isn’t going to move any of them toward the introspection and reflection on their actual duties that we need from them right now.
Best of luck with the emigration, cuz, yeah fuck this place.
The oath… to protect against antifa? The vague threat? Cause that’s what it’s gonna be sold to them as. How many bodies does it take for the military to do what they should? In my opinion, we have already passed that point… I feel everybody has chosen their sides.
I think it’s probably best that I don’t speak to some mentally ill jarhead. I’m liable to get shot— which would not surprise me in the least.
…dude, what’s your goal here? Why would YOU want to spin antifa as a domestic threat? I don’t actually need to tell you it’s the ‘fa’ part that’s the domestic threat, you know that already… right? You’re spitting out Fox news talking points like they’re some kind of inevitability that we all just need to bend over and take.
Fuck that.
You don’t need to lead the charge against the bullshit happening in this country, but if all you’ve got to offer is defeatist whining, then maybe keep that shit to yourself?
You’re not listening. You want dopamine. Read it back knowing you got it wrong and we can pick it up if you figure it out.
I’m listening, but I’m definitely not understanding what you’re trying to accomplish, unless you’re some kind of accelerationist who thinks all that’s left to do is give up and let the Nazis win… to which I disagree.
We all want dopamine - that’s how our brains work. And 100% I’m looking forward to the bolus that’ll be administered if and when we finally get some justice for Trump’s crimes. Are you not looking forward to that same hit?
I’ve gotten a shit ton wrong - even my second sentence in this thread acknowledged that. I learn from it and do better. And that’s where I see potential in our active duty military: they’re just as capable of acknowledging they fucked up, learning from it, and doing better. Can I expect the same from you?