You should give the name of the distro rather than just say modern. Ubuntu is “modern” and they broke the auto-updates for everyone some months ago. It’s more about stability than modernity
oh, so when the Linux fanboys come out and say “you should switch to Linux, it’s easy!” they actually mean learn the decades long history of countless distributions, fork infighting, and an untold amount of software and hardware compatibility baggage, THEN switching will be easy! silly of me to make such a mistake!
No? I just said it would be nicer if you precised the name of the distro when you have an issue. This way I’m less likely to recommand an unstable distro. That’s it.
You obviously can’t be expected to know what distro is stable or not, I don’t either
yes, Nvidia, and who knows for the rest. i think it was Debian-based, maybe Mint. they went back to Win11 after barely a month because it was so rough, despite years of experience with Linux.
Thats a hardware related annoyance that I’ve even seen on commercially distributed versions of Linux, and if it were set up correctly, you wouldn’t have even noticed (aside from a bunch of scrolling text during the next boot when the new kernel was loaded). I had a client where they couldn’t even get to the console of the server for this reason. Once set up correctly though, those updates have chugged away in the background… but I digress.
I’m assuming you (and your partner) have no trouble at all navigating around and using linux, it was the (poorly managed) update process that gave you headaches. I think that is a perfectly reasonable complaint.
Its mostly because of what nvidia does - the newer stuff has open source drivers, but this is a more recent thing (past year or so), but a good chunk of their libraries are still closed, their firmware is still closed, and anything not supported by the newer open source kernel modules has to use the proprietary drivers.
This is, unfortunately, outside of the control of the Linux kernel. And nvidia can be made to work just fine (I have a bunch of quadro cards for example) without dropping to the console, but that first setup to make it that way takes some knowledge. That, to me, is the big problem.
Thats also why you’ll see a lot of intel gpu’s and amd gpu’s in the linux world, while nvidia made that switch I mentioned to open on the new stuff, that was in 2024. AMD started their effort in 2015, its much more mature, and intel had open drivers for a bit over 10 years before that.
get excited for a random system update to boot you to a GRUB rescue console soon!
When was the last time you used Linux? And what distro was it? Your complaints are a decade out of date.
this exact situation happened about 3 months ago to my partner on a modern distro
You should give the name of the distro rather than just say modern. Ubuntu is “modern” and they broke the auto-updates for everyone some months ago. It’s more about stability than modernity
oh, so when the Linux fanboys come out and say “you should switch to Linux, it’s easy!” they actually mean learn the decades long history of countless distributions, fork infighting, and an untold amount of software and hardware compatibility baggage, THEN switching will be easy! silly of me to make such a mistake!
No? I just said it would be nicer if you precised the name of the distro when you have an issue. This way I’m less likely to recommand an unstable distro. That’s it.
You obviously can’t be expected to know what distro is stable or not, I don’t either
Just curious here… nvidia + kernel update and not using dkms?
yes, Nvidia, and who knows for the rest. i think it was Debian-based, maybe Mint. they went back to Win11 after barely a month because it was so rough, despite years of experience with Linux.
This is what I meant by my comment here.
Thats a hardware related annoyance that I’ve even seen on commercially distributed versions of Linux, and if it were set up correctly, you wouldn’t have even noticed (aside from a bunch of scrolling text during the next boot when the new kernel was loaded). I had a client where they couldn’t even get to the console of the server for this reason. Once set up correctly though, those updates have chugged away in the background… but I digress.
I’m assuming you (and your partner) have no trouble at all navigating around and using linux, it was the (poorly managed) update process that gave you headaches. I think that is a perfectly reasonable complaint.
of course the most popular graphics card manufacturer wouldn’t work out of the box on Linux! i would expect nothing less!
Its mostly because of what nvidia does - the newer stuff has open source drivers, but this is a more recent thing (past year or so), but a good chunk of their libraries are still closed, their firmware is still closed, and anything not supported by the newer open source kernel modules has to use the proprietary drivers.
This is, unfortunately, outside of the control of the Linux kernel. And nvidia can be made to work just fine (I have a bunch of quadro cards for example) without dropping to the console, but that first setup to make it that way takes some knowledge. That, to me, is the big problem.
Thats also why you’ll see a lot of intel gpu’s and amd gpu’s in the linux world, while nvidia made that switch I mentioned to open on the new stuff, that was in 2024. AMD started their effort in 2015, its much more mature, and intel had open drivers for a bit over 10 years before that.
I am well aware. avoiding all that bullshit is exactly why I continue to use Windows and would never advocate Linux blindly for desktop use.
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