Blocking is a personal tool for personal conflicts. This is a public nuisance attack. The solution isn’t for hundreds of users to each individually block a racist spammer; it’s for the platform to have basic moderation to stop the public harassment in the first place.
I run a small social meeting site, and I have included functionality that watches for multiple blocks of the same user in relatively quick succession. This automatically bans the user from the site for a period of time. Maybe they could implement something like this. Of course, I also moderate my site, so there’s that.
How prevalent is moderation in chat. In mmo’s I have played you would have to block the person. I mean they would get reported and eventually banned. Can you not report people in valve chat?
I have reported them several times, as I’m sure others have. The fact that you can see the spam continuing unabated is the clearest possible evidence of how prevalent Valve’s moderation is in these chats.
The tool exists, but without the will to use it, the result is what we’re seeing now.
So basically this guy started up late sunday and was still not banned by monday morning during a period that also had a massive tech fire across the industry with the cloudflare outage. Generally I found people were banned at most places within 24 hours so by this evening. I mean that is sorta a worse case timing example so im not sure im going to get all upset at lack of moderation quite yet. Honestly im not even sure if folks were banned in chats I have been in before as I only hear it second hand since I block shit I don’t want to see. I usually can tell from other folks reaction to it in the chat.
A ban might eventually happen, but that misses the point. This started on Friday last week, it’s been five days of this. Relying on a slow, reactive ban system after a racist spammer has already poisoned a chat for nearly a week is the failure.
Basic moderation is about maintaining a standard to prevent this. A ban now would just be cleaning up a mess that never should have been allowed to happen in the first place.
The situation is clear, and my position is too. I won’t be debating this further
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Blocking is a personal tool for personal conflicts. This is a public nuisance attack. The solution isn’t for hundreds of users to each individually block a racist spammer; it’s for the platform to have basic moderation to stop the public harassment in the first place.
I run a small social meeting site, and I have included functionality that watches for multiple blocks of the same user in relatively quick succession. This automatically bans the user from the site for a period of time. Maybe they could implement something like this. Of course, I also moderate my site, so there’s that.
The fact that you also moderate is the key difference!
How prevalent is moderation in chat. In mmo’s I have played you would have to block the person. I mean they would get reported and eventually banned. Can you not report people in valve chat?
I have reported them several times, as I’m sure others have. The fact that you can see the spam continuing unabated is the clearest possible evidence of how prevalent Valve’s moderation is in these chats.
The tool exists, but without the will to use it, the result is what we’re seeing now.
So basically this guy started up late sunday and was still not banned by monday morning during a period that also had a massive tech fire across the industry with the cloudflare outage. Generally I found people were banned at most places within 24 hours so by this evening. I mean that is sorta a worse case timing example so im not sure im going to get all upset at lack of moderation quite yet. Honestly im not even sure if folks were banned in chats I have been in before as I only hear it second hand since I block shit I don’t want to see. I usually can tell from other folks reaction to it in the chat.
A ban might eventually happen, but that misses the point. This started on Friday last week, it’s been five days of this. Relying on a slow, reactive ban system after a racist spammer has already poisoned a chat for nearly a week is the failure.
Basic moderation is about maintaining a standard to prevent this. A ban now would just be cleaning up a mess that never should have been allowed to happen in the first place.
The situation is clear, and my position is too. I won’t be debating this further