if everyone blocks them, they’ll just get ostracized. Reaction is what such people want. It’s not a targeted hate, it’s a provocation by inappropriate behaviour.
L on steam moderation side, but you make of it a bigger deal than it actually is imo
You’re confusing a personal tool with a community solution. My ‘block’ button doesn’t stop the public chat from being filled with racial slurs. The ‘bigger deal’ you mention is the hundreds of users who have already left, that’s the measurable consequence of treating this as a ‘provocation’ instead of a violation of basic community standards.
I’ve heard your uninformed opinion and I am choosing to disregard it.
i like how easily you can disregard my “uninformed opinion”, but you can’t disregard a very informed, it would seem, screaming of a random kid.
everybody has the block button, given that everybody presses it, the person spreading “hatespeech” would be simply ignored. Not to mention, that there is a report button on everybody’s steam profile page.
The ‘bigger deal’ you mention is the hundreds of users who have already left…
if they left insteaad of reporting the person in question and blocking all communications with them (another feature of steam btw), i can only pity their inability to use the software at hand properly. Not to mention, that “hundreds of people leaving” sounds like a plain dramatization, if non an entirely made-up fact.
i’m sorry, but of all people, you’re the uninformed one, as, it seems, you have no clue how the words work. Spoiler, it’s not the slurs that make the words hurt.
The longer alarmists like you cry about a kid shouting slurs, the longer a behavior like this will be seen by the kids like this one to be effective at bringing the attention, the more this practice would be widespread.
By the way, the fact that you’re all worked up about something as dumb as a single word means the kid achieved exactly what they wanted.
Your argument has reached its logical conclusion: blaming everyone but the racist spammer and the platform that enables them.
This is no longer a debate about features, it’s a choice of principles. You are advocating for a system where hundreds of users perform the labor of blocking each racist, where targets of harassment are blamed for being targeted, and where the platform bears no responsibility for its own spaces. Brilliant.
I engage on this topic with you in good faith, but your position has made it clear you are not just ignorant on the issue - you are actively defending a racist spammer over the implementation of basic filters against hate speech and racism.
I don’t debate the merits of racism with its apologists. We’re done.
Never defended anyone. I explained why you’re making of this situation a bigger deal than it is, but i do not condone the behaviour of the person from your post. Stop thinking in extremes.
As i said previously, there’s still a report button on everybody’s steam profile.
And while you’re claiming that i’m blaming everyone, you’re the one, who blamed
steam moderation
steam community (by calling it a cesspit)
me
i was only blaming you for doing a counterproductive job, as there are wrong ways of doing a seemingly good thing. Instead of reporting the person in question and blocking them, you’re spreading the screenshots there, on lemmy of all places, crying about how bad the steam moderation is. The only thing you might achieve by doing it like this is stroking your ego. You said the person in quesiion spent all weekend spamming? Did you report them in the first place? Or whining on lemmy about how much of a cesspit steam is was your first instinct?
There are no steam representatives here, you haven’t provided any links for people from here to go and report the troll. In other words, your post is of no substance, and you’re either too ignorant to do it the right way, or you’re purposefully posted it to instill tribalistic behaviour.
Not only you think in categories like “us vs them”, but also self-righteously force it upon everyone else. This is a way of spreading even more hate than there already is. You’ll only end up in an isolated echo-chamber full of hate, not much better than the people you hate so much yourself, practically taking their place, instead of being better than them. Good luck in your self-destructive endeavour.
Lol, nice backpedal and reframe. You now claim you “do not condone the behaviour” yet your entire engagement here has been a masterclass in minimizing it and attacking those who object. Let’s review your position:
You insisted the spam was “not a targeted hate, it’s a provocation by inappropriate behaviour,” deliberately downplaying the use of a racial slur as mere “inappropriate behaviour.”
You repeatedly framed the solution as a burden on users, stating that “everybody has the block button, given that everybody presses it, the person spreading “hatespeech” would be simply ignored.” You blamed those driven out for their “inability to use the software.”
You dismissed the damage as a “dramatization,” and labeled concern as “alarmist,” arguing that speaking up only makes the problem worse.
This isn’t a neutral stance. This is a textbook defense of a toxic status quo. You have consistently argued that the community should absorb the harm of racist harassment rather than expect the platform to implement a simple basic filter.
You are correct about one thing: my post was not for Steam representatives. It was to call out a failing of a platform I use and to see if others users here shared this concern. The fact that you have dedicated so much energy to attacking my method rather than the problem itself is, as I said, a clear choice of principles. I stand by mine.
As I’ve previously said: I don’t debate the merits of racism with its apologists. Have exactly the kind of day/life you deserve.
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if everyone blocks them, they’ll just get ostracized. Reaction is what such people want. It’s not a targeted hate, it’s a provocation by inappropriate behaviour.
L on steam moderation side, but you make of it a bigger deal than it actually is imo
You’re confusing a personal tool with a community solution. My ‘block’ button doesn’t stop the public chat from being filled with racial slurs. The ‘bigger deal’ you mention is the hundreds of users who have already left, that’s the measurable consequence of treating this as a ‘provocation’ instead of a violation of basic community standards.
I’ve heard your uninformed opinion and I am choosing to disregard it.
i like how easily you can disregard my “uninformed opinion”, but you can’t disregard a very informed, it would seem, screaming of a random kid.
everybody has the block button, given that everybody presses it, the person spreading “hatespeech” would be simply ignored. Not to mention, that there is a report button on everybody’s steam profile page.
if they left insteaad of reporting the person in question and blocking all communications with them (another feature of steam btw), i can only pity their inability to use the software at hand properly. Not to mention, that “hundreds of people leaving” sounds like a plain dramatization, if non an entirely made-up fact.
i’m sorry, but of all people, you’re the uninformed one, as, it seems, you have no clue how the words work. Spoiler, it’s not the slurs that make the words hurt.
The longer alarmists like you cry about a kid shouting slurs, the longer a behavior like this will be seen by the kids like this one to be effective at bringing the attention, the more this practice would be widespread.
By the way, the fact that you’re all worked up about something as dumb as a single word means the kid achieved exactly what they wanted.
Your argument has reached its logical conclusion: blaming everyone but the racist spammer and the platform that enables them.
This is no longer a debate about features, it’s a choice of principles. You are advocating for a system where hundreds of users perform the labor of blocking each racist, where targets of harassment are blamed for being targeted, and where the platform bears no responsibility for its own spaces. Brilliant.
I engage on this topic with you in good faith, but your position has made it clear you are not just ignorant on the issue - you are actively defending a racist spammer over the implementation of basic filters against hate speech and racism.
I don’t debate the merits of racism with its apologists. We’re done.
Never defended anyone. I explained why you’re making of this situation a bigger deal than it is, but i do not condone the behaviour of the person from your post. Stop thinking in extremes. As i said previously, there’s still a report button on everybody’s steam profile.
And while you’re claiming that i’m blaming everyone, you’re the one, who blamed
i was only blaming you for doing a counterproductive job, as there are wrong ways of doing a seemingly good thing. Instead of reporting the person in question and blocking them, you’re spreading the screenshots there, on lemmy of all places, crying about how bad the steam moderation is. The only thing you might achieve by doing it like this is stroking your ego. You said the person in quesiion spent all weekend spamming? Did you report them in the first place? Or whining on lemmy about how much of a cesspit steam is was your first instinct?
There are no steam representatives here, you haven’t provided any links for people from here to go and report the troll. In other words, your post is of no substance, and you’re either too ignorant to do it the right way, or you’re purposefully posted it to instill tribalistic behaviour.
Not only you think in categories like “us vs them”, but also self-righteously force it upon everyone else. This is a way of spreading even more hate than there already is. You’ll only end up in an isolated echo-chamber full of hate, not much better than the people you hate so much yourself, practically taking their place, instead of being better than them. Good luck in your self-destructive endeavour.
Lol, nice backpedal and reframe. You now claim you “do not condone the behaviour” yet your entire engagement here has been a masterclass in minimizing it and attacking those who object. Let’s review your position:
You insisted the spam was “not a targeted hate, it’s a provocation by inappropriate behaviour,” deliberately downplaying the use of a racial slur as mere “inappropriate behaviour.”
You repeatedly framed the solution as a burden on users, stating that “everybody has the block button, given that everybody presses it, the person spreading “hatespeech” would be simply ignored.” You blamed those driven out for their “inability to use the software.”
You dismissed the damage as a “dramatization,” and labeled concern as “alarmist,” arguing that speaking up only makes the problem worse.
This isn’t a neutral stance. This is a textbook defense of a toxic status quo. You have consistently argued that the community should absorb the harm of racist harassment rather than expect the platform to implement a simple basic filter.
You are correct about one thing: my post was not for Steam representatives. It was to call out a failing of a platform I use and to see if others users here shared this concern. The fact that you have dedicated so much energy to attacking my method rather than the problem itself is, as I said, a clear choice of principles. I stand by mine.
As I’ve previously said: I don’t debate the merits of racism with its apologists. Have exactly the kind of day/life you deserve.
Blocked.