Being an absolutist in favor of slur usage is wierd, period. Slurs are phased out because it perpetuates harmful sterotypes and societal hatred towards marginalized groups. Secondly, I explained where the homophobia was. You can’t just say “nuh-uh.” Yes, calling someone a cunt is also misogynistic.
Again, you’re using emotions to make an argument. From a purely logical standpoint there should be no issue with using whatever is considered a ‘slur’ if there is no mal-intent. ‘Slurs’ are social constructs already, and I don’t believe in social constructs.
No, I’m not using emotions to make an argument, I’m talking about the systemic usage of language to passively punish those society deems “outsiders.” It doesn’t matter if you don’t believe that words have meanings and that using them conveys messages.
I can use the term ‘wigga’, and it wouldn’t nearly carry the same impact as the ‘n-word’ does. This is a social construct.
Rather than policing language, I’d rather focus on the structural factors that continue to perpetuate racial discrimination.
I’m not gonna lose my marbles over a Caucasian who uses the n-word while rapping a song that happens to contain, and I find it pretty cringe that anyone does tbh
The base and superstructure mutually reinforce each other. The base is primary, but the superstructure still has an impact on reinforcing bigotry, and part of the way that works is through language. Perpetuating bigoted language perpetuates cultural perceptions on the marginalized groups they target.
I would actually push back on that quite a bit. Institutionalized racism is sustained because capitalism creates the means through which it can remain so. You get rid of that, you get rid of the social incentives keeping racism and power structures currently used to reinforce it. No need for policing language
Capitalism does create the means by which institutionalized racism is sustained, yes. Part of those means are under the umbrella of cultural hegemony, a concept most associated with Gramsci. Language, the way we communicate, is a part of that. Using speech that isn’t at the expense of marginalized groups helps break up parts of that cultural hegemony.
Again, the words only carry meaning insofar as you ascribe it to them. The n-word, other than its dark past, means nothing on the surface. The fact that only blacks are “allowed to use it” is proof enough of this point. The idea that blacks are incapable of themselves self-perpetuating racism by their own use of the word, but somehow white people ‘can?’ seems itself racist to me.
It’s a needless social construct that should expose itself as such with the death of capitalism.
Words have meaning, and this meaning is decided culturally. What you’re arguing is more akin to saying capitalism dying will also cause words to cease having meaning. Further, refusing to fight the cultural hegemony of the bourgeoisie and letting all language, art, and culture be shaped at their whim makes it more difficult to kill capitalism once and for all. If you join an org, you’ll see this also in real life, the substitution of bourgeois structures and culture with proletarian structures and culture.
Language conveys certain data. Slurs and language that carries bigoted undertones help reinforce bourgeois culture and divide the working classes. We don’t transcend this by telling people not to be offended, but by showing solidarity and refusing to use these same terms.
Being an absolutist in favor of slur usage is wierd, period. Slurs are phased out because it perpetuates harmful sterotypes and societal hatred towards marginalized groups. Secondly, I explained where the homophobia was. You can’t just say “nuh-uh.” Yes, calling someone a cunt is also misogynistic.
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Seriously, lmao. I was genuinely caught off-guard with that one, that’s too on-the-nose.
Again, you’re using emotions to make an argument. From a purely logical standpoint there should be no issue with using whatever is considered a ‘slur’ if there is no mal-intent. ‘Slurs’ are social constructs already, and I don’t believe in social constructs.
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No, I’m not using emotions to make an argument, I’m talking about the systemic usage of language to passively punish those society deems “outsiders.” It doesn’t matter if you don’t believe that words have meanings and that using them conveys messages.
I can use the term ‘wigga’, and it wouldn’t nearly carry the same impact as the ‘n-word’ does. This is a social construct.
Rather than policing language, I’d rather focus on the structural factors that continue to perpetuate racial discrimination.
I’m not gonna lose my marbles over a Caucasian who uses the n-word while rapping a song that happens to contain, and I find it pretty cringe that anyone does tbh
The base and superstructure mutually reinforce each other. The base is primary, but the superstructure still has an impact on reinforcing bigotry, and part of the way that works is through language. Perpetuating bigoted language perpetuates cultural perceptions on the marginalized groups they target.
I would actually push back on that quite a bit. Institutionalized racism is sustained because capitalism creates the means through which it can remain so. You get rid of that, you get rid of the social incentives keeping racism and power structures currently used to reinforce it. No need for policing language
Capitalism does create the means by which institutionalized racism is sustained, yes. Part of those means are under the umbrella of cultural hegemony, a concept most associated with Gramsci. Language, the way we communicate, is a part of that. Using speech that isn’t at the expense of marginalized groups helps break up parts of that cultural hegemony.
Again, the words only carry meaning insofar as you ascribe it to them. The n-word, other than its dark past, means nothing on the surface. The fact that only blacks are “allowed to use it” is proof enough of this point. The idea that blacks are incapable of themselves self-perpetuating racism by their own use of the word, but somehow white people ‘can?’ seems itself racist to me.
It’s a needless social construct that should expose itself as such with the death of capitalism.
I don’t know why you keep picking the dumbest hills to die on.
Words have meaning, and this meaning is decided culturally. What you’re arguing is more akin to saying capitalism dying will also cause words to cease having meaning. Further, refusing to fight the cultural hegemony of the bourgeoisie and letting all language, art, and culture be shaped at their whim makes it more difficult to kill capitalism once and for all. If you join an org, you’ll see this also in real life, the substitution of bourgeois structures and culture with proletarian structures and culture.
Language conveys certain data. Slurs and language that carries bigoted undertones help reinforce bourgeois culture and divide the working classes. We don’t transcend this by telling people not to be offended, but by showing solidarity and refusing to use these same terms.