The commercials are meant to speak “directly to ICE agents who may be grappling with guilt, burnout, or moral conflict over their work” – providing a counterpoint to ICE recruitment commercials and to commercials where Noem advises migrants to self-deport.

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    From what I’ve seen, a lot of ICE agents are being malicious because they’ve convinced themselves that the people they’re hurting are deserving of it somehow. They really think that they’re the “good guys”. Others crave the ability to power trip and bully people.

    I’m not sure that trying to make most of them feel shame for what they do will work.

    I might be wrong though. People’s morality can be heavily influenced by their perception of their social circle’s judgment of their actions. Letting them get a peek outside of their echo chamber might actually have an effect.

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        Trying to appeal to the empathy, ethics, and morality of fascists who posses none of those traits is certainly… a choice.

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          If it works on even a few it’s worth it.

          We are at the point, I think, and have been for entirely too long, where it’s appropriate to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.

          That’s not to say we should be limited to stuff like this, just that there’s no reason not to include stuff like this.

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            This! I’m so sick of people on here that just shoot everything down as ineffective.

            “That won’t work.” “That’s pointless.” “Why bother?”

            Then STFU, get out of your armchair, and do something that you think will work, asshat!

            Pretty sure most of them are the same people behind those foreign accounts outed on Xitter that are just here to demoralize us.

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      The group has been suffering from low morale for months. They thought they’d be taking on all these vicious criminals, as the propaganda told them, but have been mostly arresting gardeners and construction workers… And the whole country just hates them.

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        Yeah, a lot of the guys who leave or take interviews have mentioned “we thought we’d be taking out criminals, not people who look like my grandma.”

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      I definitely think the commercial could be different. Pretty sure their hypothetical daughter answer is easy “Good, I was saving America sweetie”

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      I feel like I would empathize with the situation you describe, but I’m so cynical, I just imagine the father telling the frightened child that the friendly ice cream man was hiding a terrible secret - that he is a criminal and was here illegally; that he is taking jobs from people who need the work, and will then use the nearest white homeless person as an example of the type of person who could be working, in clean clothes, and not struggling on the streets if only we facilitate this vision of a white Christian ethno-state.

      And while that narrative is complete and utter nonsense, it is a common one, and it’s one that impressionable children believe and adopt as a core part of their worldview. Many never recover from that intellectual poisoning.

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    Bold of them to assume that ICE agents have morals. They joined because they have none to begin with. This is like writing a strongly worded letter to a serial killer to stop killing.

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      They’ll respond to social pressure if they feel their tribe has lost status. Keep up the pressure this Thanksgiving.

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    I have seen a lot of videos if ICE and I always see a bunch of Hispanic people and African/Americans. There are cracker too but the amount of minorities really saddens me.

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    Meal team six is getting to live out their gun toting migrant kidnapping fantasies, the only thing that will stop them is a bullet. Fascists do not walk away.

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    I agree nobody should join this pedofile Gestapo but Americans need accessible living wage job opportunities are there really aren’t any