• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Thats a good point, but in my defense, I’d argue thst an alcoholic just is a manipulative narcissist, a flavor of them, just with worse memory and coordination.

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      13 hours ago

      the action of being an addict is very selfish. And I have no doubt some alcoholics or other types of addicts are narcissistic. Often alcoholics are self medicating for another issue such as depression which might fit a different mental reason.

      For our sake and purpose here : Results are the same. Still impacts the family just as much with a selfish action.

      Just if we were to peel off from this and look at what drives them and how they might try to fix themselves might be a different approach cuz what they are masking can be various illnesses.

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        12 hours ago

        Thats a good point too.

        Addict as victim vs Addict as victimizer.

        Maybe thats not quite the preferred nomenclature, but yes, its very much worth considering what drives people to addiction, how to potentially help them… but the flip side of that is that addicts tend to be various kinds of awful to the people around them.

        You’d ideally need a holistic solution to the entire situation, but that’s often very difficult to pull off, in practice.