Last election was a choice between Palestinian genocide vs significantly more Palestinian genocide + Ukrainian genocide + it’s looking Venezuelan genocide is about to be kicking off + who the fuck knows, we’ve got three more years of this shitshow and that’s assuming we even have another election.
You are doing the thing right now. The other choice is “none of those things,” actually, and you don’t get that by voting harder because as you’ve just demonstrated you were not given the choice. Is any genocide acceptable to you? The line is never “less genocide,” it is “no genocide.”
All that does is allow the other voters to make the decision on your behalf - but it’s still a dichotomy. We need a fuckton of systemic change before it’ll be anything else. You can opt out or vote for a spoiler, but until we see that change it’s going to red or blue every time. So why not use your vote for damage control while pushing for real change with your other tools?
Is any genocide acceptable to you? The line is never “less genocide,” it is “no genocide.”
What’s acceptable to me vs not doesn’t determine our options. The only line was between ‘more genocide’ and ‘less genocide’. I wish ‘no genocide’ was an option, but that’s not the reality we live in. Given those options, I’ll choose ‘less genocide’ every time. The majority of our voters disagree, and with the help of propaganda like yours, they succeeded - YOU succeeded - in choosing ‘more genocide’. Congrats. Was it worth it?
It’s extremely telling that even you “lesser evil” BlueMAGA types can’t being yourselves to actually be honest about what you supported: you have to make up this bullshit white washed version of the Democrats that wasn’t entirely all in on genocide. Clearly even you know the lesser evil position as it actually exists is indefensible.
It’s extremely telling that even you “lesser evil” BlueMAGA types can’t being yourselves to actually be honest about what you supported
You’re projecting. Y’all need to get that under control.
bullshit white washed version of the Democrats that wasn’t entirely all in on genocide.
Where did I say that? They just don’t have the same affinity for it as Republicans, so between the two, blue team is the wildly obvious choice if you want to minimize the suffering.
Clearly even you know the lesser evil position as it actually exists is indefensible.
Correct. The lesser evil is still evil. But contrasted against a greater evil and locked into a dichotomy, the lesser gets my vote despite being indefensible.
If you had me tied up and held a loaded gun to my head and offered the choice of either pulling the trigger or using it to pistol-whip me, your actions would be indefensible either way, but one stands out as significantly worse than the other, so I’ll choose the pistol-whip. I’ll also be doing other things like trying to fidget my way out of the ties, but I can do that in addition to choosing the lesser evil of a shitty dichotomy.
You’re projecting. Y’all need to get that under control.
Alright, fuck off. If you’re going to just start sprouting random pre-loaded accusations like this that don’t even apply to the context at hand, I’m just going to tell you to fuck off back to reddit and not read the rest of your post.
They’re called logical fallacies. The one you just used is called a false dilemma. If you don’t like me drawing attention to them, I’d recommend refraining from using them.
Oh my God, is there anything more obnoxious that reddit debate lords that have the Wikipedia list of logical fallacies open in another tab, but never bother to actually learn what they mean, so they just copy paste them like they’re magical debate incantations that win arguments.
And no, “projection” is not a logical fallacy, you absolute dumb ass. Accusing people of it to dismiss their argument is though, you fucking idiot. Go back to Reddit, for fucks sake.
No, an ad hominem is when you attack someones character as a way to dismiss your arguments: like when you tried to dismiss mine by bleating “projection”.
I’m not calling you an insufferable reddit shitheal, who spurts copy pasted logical fallacies from Wikipedia because they think they’re magic spells, to discredit your argument. I’m calling you that because that’s what you are.
There was a choice. Primaries. Americans rejected every option of no genocide, so the final round had genocide A or genocide B. Same way that they rejected Bernie Sanders a few times.
You are doing the thing right now. The other choice is “none of those things,” actually, and you don’t get that by voting harder because as you’ve just demonstrated you were not given the choice. Is any genocide acceptable to you? The line is never “less genocide,” it is “no genocide.”
Liberals can have a little genocide, as a treat.
All that does is allow the other voters to make the decision on your behalf - but it’s still a dichotomy. We need a fuckton of systemic change before it’ll be anything else. You can opt out or vote for a spoiler, but until we see that change it’s going to red or blue every time. So why not use your vote for damage control while pushing for real change with your other tools?
What’s acceptable to me vs not doesn’t determine our options. The only line was between ‘more genocide’ and ‘less genocide’. I wish ‘no genocide’ was an option, but that’s not the reality we live in. Given those options, I’ll choose ‘less genocide’ every time. The majority of our voters disagree, and with the help of propaganda like yours, they succeeded - YOU succeeded - in choosing ‘more genocide’. Congrats. Was it worth it?
It’s extremely telling that even you “lesser evil” BlueMAGA types can’t being yourselves to actually be honest about what you supported: you have to make up this bullshit white washed version of the Democrats that wasn’t entirely all in on genocide. Clearly even you know the lesser evil position as it actually exists is indefensible.
You’re projecting. Y’all need to get that under control.
Where did I say that? They just don’t have the same affinity for it as Republicans, so between the two, blue team is the wildly obvious choice if you want to minimize the suffering.
Correct. The lesser evil is still evil. But contrasted against a greater evil and locked into a dichotomy, the lesser gets my vote despite being indefensible.
If you had me tied up and held a loaded gun to my head and offered the choice of either pulling the trigger or using it to pistol-whip me, your actions would be indefensible either way, but one stands out as significantly worse than the other, so I’ll choose the pistol-whip. I’ll also be doing other things like trying to fidget my way out of the ties, but I can do that in addition to choosing the lesser evil of a shitty dichotomy.
Alright, fuck off. If you’re going to just start sprouting random pre-loaded accusations like this that don’t even apply to the context at hand, I’m just going to tell you to fuck off back to reddit and not read the rest of your post.
They’re called logical fallacies. The one you just used is called a false dilemma. If you don’t like me drawing attention to them, I’d recommend refraining from using them.
Oh my God, is there anything more obnoxious that reddit debate lords that have the Wikipedia list of logical fallacies open in another tab, but never bother to actually learn what they mean, so they just copy paste them like they’re magical debate incantations that win arguments.
And no, “projection” is not a logical fallacy, you absolute dumb ass. Accusing people of it to dismiss their argument is though, you fucking idiot. Go back to Reddit, for fucks sake.
Ad hominem
The sound of a punch that breaks glasses
no, they are just insulting you
i recommend actually learning what the words you try to use mean before you try to use them
No, an ad hominem is when you attack someones character as a way to dismiss your arguments: like when you tried to dismiss mine by bleating “projection”.
I’m not calling you an insufferable reddit shitheal, who spurts copy pasted logical fallacies from Wikipedia because they think they’re magic spells, to discredit your argument. I’m calling you that because that’s what you are.
😂
There was a choice. Primaries. Americans rejected every option of no genocide, so the final round had genocide A or genocide B. Same way that they rejected Bernie Sanders a few times.
At that point, the lesser evil position is which ever will destroy the USs ability to do genocide the fastest
Yeah, the problem with empires is they can only destroy themselves, usually. Which they are on a tremendous path of doing.
ie: the lesser evil position is just Accelerationism