Whataboutism much? “Yeah, Chinese people may be overwhelmingly satisfied with their government, BUT WHAT ABOUT…”
But sure, let’s do whataboutism. I’ve visited China and the US (I’m Spanish). In China I’ve seen a total of 0 suicide nets. In the US I’ve seen plenty of public spaces forbidding people from having backpacks due to fear of mass murder with rifles. One of them was a university. Tell me again how much healthier the country that doesn’t allow BACKPACKS IN UNIVERSITIES is.
So you didn’t visit any factories with suicide nets. Great! I’ve also never witnessed a mass murder. Lucky us!
You chose the easier, less common example, but ignored the more common one that I mentioned. So whatabout 9-9-6? I’ve spoken to people in that 9-9-6 life, and exactly zero of them were happy about it.
Witnessing a mass murder would be akin to watching not a suicide net but an actual suicide, great false equivalency in your whataboutism.
What about unpaid holiday in the USA? What about homelessness rates? What about rates of poverty in urban areas and rates of employed poverty? What about diplomatic, economic and military support for genocide in Palestine? What about one in five black males going through the prison system at least once throughout their lives? What about mass incarceration rates? What about drug abuse and drug mortality? What about car-only infrastructure? What about expansive suburban without access to public transit or any walkability? What about food deserts? What about the invasion of Iraq? What about the most expensive healthcare in the planet with the least function of the developed world? What about the disintegration of public education? What about prohibitive tuition costs in universities? What about student debt? What about debt of US citizens in general? What about credit score rates? What about the price of housing being unaffordable? What about the oil dependency and the shutting down of renewable and nuclear projects? What about the “back to coal”? What about the collapse of unionization rates? What about rates of obesity? What about functional illiteracy rates? What about life expectancy being lower than in Cuba? What about massive wealth inequality? What about the most overfunded and bloated military industrial complex? What about the support for dictators and fascists all over the world? What about the CIA operations supporting coups and destroying socialist movements? What about the bombing of Libya submerging it into a civil war? What about the support for ISIS in Syria? What about mass surveillance of US citizens and of the rest of the world? What about ownership of mass media and social media by capitalist conglomerates? What about the militarized police disappearing people in the streets? What about the functionally equivalent two parties in your “democracy”? What about the pedophilic gerontocracy in power? What about the rollback of rights of women? What about the rollback of rights of trans people? What about the consistently racist policies? What about the lack of worker rights? What about the finacialized justice system? What about the total lack of public childcare infrastructure? What about the disastrous rates of second language knowledge and usage among USians? What about the exploitation of the peoples and their resources in the global south? What about the propagation of false neoliberal recipes for disaster through the IMF and its debt traps? What about the offshoring of polluting industries? What about the support for fascists like Bolsonaro and Milei?
Wow, that looks like a lot of work to avoid the 9-9-6 thing. I like this first one though:
What about unpaid holiday in the USA?
Was that at the top of the list because it was meant to compare to 9-9-6, somehow? I mean sure, unpaid holidays suck, but that’s not even in the same ballpark as working 72 hours per week, every week. At that point, you’re just living to work (as a robot/zombie slave cursed with a depressed human brain and flesh body).
As for the rest of the list: I appreciate the effort, but would it have been much harder to use an unordered list? And do you think it’s not possible to gather a big list about China that isn’t just as bad or worse?
Just out of curiosity: When you say “USians” IRL, how do you pronounce it? “You-ess-ians”? “Yousians”? “Oosians”?
Neat buzzword ya got there. Anyway, I acknowledge that you’ll continue ignoring 9-9-6. Consider your attempts to dodge it a success. And congrats on your success :)
On a lighter topic: I’m still curious about “USian”. Appending a suffix like “ian” to an acronym is unusual in English, but this is the second time I’ve encountered it on Lemmy. How is it pronounced?
Whataboutism much? “Yeah, Chinese people may be overwhelmingly satisfied with their government, BUT WHAT ABOUT…”
But sure, let’s do whataboutism. I’ve visited China and the US (I’m Spanish). In China I’ve seen a total of 0 suicide nets. In the US I’ve seen plenty of public spaces forbidding people from having backpacks due to fear of mass murder with rifles. One of them was a university. Tell me again how much healthier the country that doesn’t allow BACKPACKS IN UNIVERSITIES is.
So you didn’t visit any factories with suicide nets. Great! I’ve also never witnessed a mass murder. Lucky us!
You chose the easier, less common example, but ignored the more common one that I mentioned. So whatabout 9-9-6? I’ve spoken to people in that 9-9-6 life, and exactly zero of them were happy about it.
Witnessing a mass murder would be akin to watching not a suicide net but an actual suicide, great false equivalency in your whataboutism.
What about unpaid holiday in the USA? What about homelessness rates? What about rates of poverty in urban areas and rates of employed poverty? What about diplomatic, economic and military support for genocide in Palestine? What about one in five black males going through the prison system at least once throughout their lives? What about mass incarceration rates? What about drug abuse and drug mortality? What about car-only infrastructure? What about expansive suburban without access to public transit or any walkability? What about food deserts? What about the invasion of Iraq? What about the most expensive healthcare in the planet with the least function of the developed world? What about the disintegration of public education? What about prohibitive tuition costs in universities? What about student debt? What about debt of US citizens in general? What about credit score rates? What about the price of housing being unaffordable? What about the oil dependency and the shutting down of renewable and nuclear projects? What about the “back to coal”? What about the collapse of unionization rates? What about rates of obesity? What about functional illiteracy rates? What about life expectancy being lower than in Cuba? What about massive wealth inequality? What about the most overfunded and bloated military industrial complex? What about the support for dictators and fascists all over the world? What about the CIA operations supporting coups and destroying socialist movements? What about the bombing of Libya submerging it into a civil war? What about the support for ISIS in Syria? What about mass surveillance of US citizens and of the rest of the world? What about ownership of mass media and social media by capitalist conglomerates? What about the militarized police disappearing people in the streets? What about the functionally equivalent two parties in your “democracy”? What about the pedophilic gerontocracy in power? What about the rollback of rights of women? What about the rollback of rights of trans people? What about the consistently racist policies? What about the lack of worker rights? What about the finacialized justice system? What about the total lack of public childcare infrastructure? What about the disastrous rates of second language knowledge and usage among USians? What about the exploitation of the peoples and their resources in the global south? What about the propagation of false neoliberal recipes for disaster through the IMF and its debt traps? What about the offshoring of polluting industries? What about the support for fascists like Bolsonaro and Milei?
Wow, that looks like a lot of work to avoid the 9-9-6 thing. I like this first one though:
Was that at the top of the list because it was meant to compare to 9-9-6, somehow? I mean sure, unpaid holidays suck, but that’s not even in the same ballpark as working 72 hours per week, every week. At that point, you’re just living to work (as a robot/zombie slave cursed with a depressed human brain and flesh body).
As for the rest of the list: I appreciate the effort, but would it have been much harder to use an unordered list? And do you think it’s not possible to gather a big list about China that isn’t just as bad or worse?
Just out of curiosity: When you say “USians” IRL, how do you pronounce it? “You-ess-ians”? “Yousians”? “Oosians”?
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Neat buzzword ya got there. Anyway, I acknowledge that you’ll continue ignoring 9-9-6. Consider your attempts to dodge it a success. And congrats on your success :)
On a lighter topic: I’m still curious about “USian”. Appending a suffix like “ian” to an acronym is unusual in English, but this is the second time I’ve encountered it on Lemmy. How is it pronounced?