National pride was also pretty high when the United States was going around committing war crimes against any small nation that leaned communist and domestic terrorism against its own people in the 20th century
Good thing China isn’t doing any of those things then, China doesnt go around doing war crimes, invading other nations or supporting fascist coups. The satisfaction rates must be coming from somewhere else then… Maybe from the extremely powerful and sustained economic growth lacking any big economic crises, the saving of millions of lives during the COVID pandemic with the strong central government mandates, the near-total home ownership rates, and the comparison of their government with those abroad?
It’s absolutely true that China’s economic growth and the effectiveness of the government’s COVID response is a factor, but my point was that the government has an enormous ability to influence the population. Of course the government you live under is going to have an advantage when it comes to having your approval. I’ve tried to make a point that being almost universally approved by the people that live under it is not an objective measure of morality or the amount of good it does, just popularity, and popular things aren’t always moral or good. I would also add that these numbers could simply be fudged, but I don’t know enough about the source to say that for certain and I knew you definitely wouldn’t believe it if it was true anyway.
But from how these responses are worded, I’m guessing that no matter what I say you’re just gonna stick with this narrative and let your brain decide that any information you take in is either in support of what you believe or a lie. I’m gonna go now.
Edit: after re-reading your earlier comment im actually curious about where you got that image of a graph. I know you said where it was from, but you never provided a link or the name of what it was from. That’s kind of bad form, you gotta properly cite your sources. Can you reply with it because I’m actually trying to learn more about China (cause, yk, they’re becoming kinda important) and also I think it would be funny if you were lying about the data and refused to link it
Got the graph from here. According to the source, the data’s origin is “according to surveys conducted between 2003-2016 by Harvard’s Kennedy School”.
Another source I’ve linked to in other comments, quotes: “According to the Pew Research Center, 85 percent of Chinese people in 2013 were satisfied with their government, while only 35 percent of Americans felt the same about their government. In May 2020, a University of California survey found that 88 percent of Chinese people preferred their country’s political system. A study jointly published by the Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government showed that Chinese people’s satisfaction with the central government rose from 86.1 percent in 2003 to 93.1 percent in 2016”.
I’ve made sure to link to sources that portray western biases such as University of California, Pew Research or the Harvard University, and yet you see the replies to my comment are plagued with people questioning the methodology, as if three different western organizations had any motives to portray pro-China bias. Lemmy is riddled with anticommunist and anti-China bias, and bringing factual data gives people such levels of cognitive bias that they’ll just outright reject the information, MAGA style.
I understand you may doubt “government satisfaction” as a metric of anything actually good, that’s reasonable I guess, but the post is about OP’s impressions of the Chinese government, which is the reason why I brought it up.
Good thing China isn’t doing any of those things then, China doesnt go around doing war crimes, invading other nations or supporting fascist coups. The satisfaction rates must be coming from somewhere else then… Maybe from the extremely powerful and sustained economic growth lacking any big economic crises, the saving of millions of lives during the COVID pandemic with the strong central government mandates, the near-total home ownership rates, and the comparison of their government with those abroad?
It’s absolutely true that China’s economic growth and the effectiveness of the government’s COVID response is a factor, but my point was that the government has an enormous ability to influence the population. Of course the government you live under is going to have an advantage when it comes to having your approval. I’ve tried to make a point that being almost universally approved by the people that live under it is not an objective measure of morality or the amount of good it does, just popularity, and popular things aren’t always moral or good. I would also add that these numbers could simply be fudged, but I don’t know enough about the source to say that for certain and I knew you definitely wouldn’t believe it if it was true anyway.
But from how these responses are worded, I’m guessing that no matter what I say you’re just gonna stick with this narrative and let your brain decide that any information you take in is either in support of what you believe or a lie. I’m gonna go now.
Edit: after re-reading your earlier comment im actually curious about where you got that image of a graph. I know you said where it was from, but you never provided a link or the name of what it was from. That’s kind of bad form, you gotta properly cite your sources. Can you reply with it because I’m actually trying to learn more about China (cause, yk, they’re becoming kinda important) and also I think it would be funny if you were lying about the data and refused to link it
Got the graph from here. According to the source, the data’s origin is “according to surveys conducted between 2003-2016 by Harvard’s Kennedy School”.
Another source I’ve linked to in other comments, quotes: “According to the Pew Research Center, 85 percent of Chinese people in 2013 were satisfied with their government, while only 35 percent of Americans felt the same about their government. In May 2020, a University of California survey found that 88 percent of Chinese people preferred their country’s political system. A study jointly published by the Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government showed that Chinese people’s satisfaction with the central government rose from 86.1 percent in 2003 to 93.1 percent in 2016”.
I’ve made sure to link to sources that portray western biases such as University of California, Pew Research or the Harvard University, and yet you see the replies to my comment are plagued with people questioning the methodology, as if three different western organizations had any motives to portray pro-China bias. Lemmy is riddled with anticommunist and anti-China bias, and bringing factual data gives people such levels of cognitive bias that they’ll just outright reject the information, MAGA style.
I understand you may doubt “government satisfaction” as a metric of anything actually good, that’s reasonable I guess, but the post is about OP’s impressions of the Chinese government, which is the reason why I brought it up.