I feel you, but yet again you need to take pills. I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid. But, what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd. Again I’m probaly sounding ignorant. Is the condition the problem, or is the lack of environments that can utilize adhd the problem? Is adhd actually a defunct? Or have we been conditioned to think that because of rigid structures? I like to think of Waldof Schools as an environment where one with adhd could thrive better than in traditional schools. I’d rather find a fitting environment than relying on drugging people up. Reality is not that simple tho…just food for thought.
I understand what you mean, but like… Imagine a pill that lets you feel like a person. That’s vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine) for me. My psychiatrist advised me against taking it every day to avoid building up a tolerance, so I don’t take it on the weekends and I hate it because I want to feel like a person all the time, not just to get work done. Like yes the world can be more accommodating to to adhd but medicine that makes you feel better isn’t something you need to seek to avoid. t’s kind of like saying “wow it sucks to have to use crutches to get around on my broken leg” so you just toss them away and limp painfully around on it. Like sure it sucks that you need em but having them is immensely preferable. It’s not a perfect solution, it has aide effects, but it’s like it regrows the mental equivalent of a limb for me.
what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd
this is a false dichotomy.
I have a job that plays well with my ADHD (working from home doing software engineering). I worked in this field before I knew I had ADHD (I’m in my late 30s, and only diagnosed a couple years ago).
but having a job that is relatively ADHD-friendly simply is not enough. especially when so many ADHD symptoms affect my personal life and not just my 9-5 job.
I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid.
honestly - rather than sounding stupid, you just kind of sound like an asshole. listen to yourself:
Can’t make enough money or slaves from that tho, so just create more pill zombies.
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relying on drugging people up
since I take an ADHD medication every day, I guess that makes me a “slave” to pharmaceutical companies or “drugged up” or a “pill zombie” in your estimation?
if I skip medication for a day, that is what makes me feel like a zombie. most ADHD medications are stimulants. before I started medication, I was doing what I now recognize as self-medicating - drinking an absolute fuck-ton of coffee and energy drinks, but still never feeling like I got an energy boost from them.
also - before I was diagnosed with ADHD, I was depressed, at times pretty severely. I tried all the “you don’t need antidepressants, you just need X” things people recommend - therapy, better diet, better sleep, more exercise, more outdoor exercise, and so on. none of it worked.
eventually I gave up and asked my doctor for antidepressants (reluctantly, because I had internalized a lot of the “rx drugs for mental health issues are bad” that I think you have as well)
the antidepressants helped, but only partially. eventually I figured out I probably have ADHD and went to a psychiatrist about it. part of what helped me realize that was that of a couple different antidepressants I had tried, the one that helped the most (buproprion) was also used in treating ADHD.
and so in my case, “antidepressants help, but they don’t treat the underlying problem” was true - but the underlying problem also needs prescription medication.
I feel you, but yet again you need to take pills. I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid. But, what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd. Again I’m probaly sounding ignorant. Is the condition the problem, or is the lack of environments that can utilize adhd the problem? Is adhd actually a defunct? Or have we been conditioned to think that because of rigid structures? I like to think of Waldof Schools as an environment where one with adhd could thrive better than in traditional schools. I’d rather find a fitting environment than relying on drugging people up. Reality is not that simple tho…just food for thought.
I understand what you mean, but like… Imagine a pill that lets you feel like a person. That’s vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine) for me. My psychiatrist advised me against taking it every day to avoid building up a tolerance, so I don’t take it on the weekends and I hate it because I want to feel like a person all the time, not just to get work done. Like yes the world can be more accommodating to to adhd but medicine that makes you feel better isn’t something you need to seek to avoid. t’s kind of like saying “wow it sucks to have to use crutches to get around on my broken leg” so you just toss them away and limp painfully around on it. Like sure it sucks that you need em but having them is immensely preferable. It’s not a perfect solution, it has aide effects, but it’s like it regrows the mental equivalent of a limb for me.
this is a false dichotomy.
I have a job that plays well with my ADHD (working from home doing software engineering). I worked in this field before I knew I had ADHD (I’m in my late 30s, and only diagnosed a couple years ago).
but having a job that is relatively ADHD-friendly simply is not enough. especially when so many ADHD symptoms affect my personal life and not just my 9-5 job.
honestly - rather than sounding stupid, you just kind of sound like an asshole. listen to yourself:
since I take an ADHD medication every day, I guess that makes me a “slave” to pharmaceutical companies or “drugged up” or a “pill zombie” in your estimation?
if I skip medication for a day, that is what makes me feel like a zombie. most ADHD medications are stimulants. before I started medication, I was doing what I now recognize as self-medicating - drinking an absolute fuck-ton of coffee and energy drinks, but still never feeling like I got an energy boost from them.
also - before I was diagnosed with ADHD, I was depressed, at times pretty severely. I tried all the “you don’t need antidepressants, you just need X” things people recommend - therapy, better diet, better sleep, more exercise, more outdoor exercise, and so on. none of it worked.
eventually I gave up and asked my doctor for antidepressants (reluctantly, because I had internalized a lot of the “rx drugs for mental health issues are bad” that I think you have as well)
the antidepressants helped, but only partially. eventually I figured out I probably have ADHD and went to a psychiatrist about it. part of what helped me realize that was that of a couple different antidepressants I had tried, the one that helped the most (buproprion) was also used in treating ADHD.
and so in my case, “antidepressants help, but they don’t treat the underlying problem” was true - but the underlying problem also needs prescription medication.