• GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 hours ago

    Microsoft has nothing worth using. Microsoft hasn’t made anything that’s even worth talking about. Anyone with an OpenAI key and an afternoon to kill could make something every bit as good as what Microsoft has done. They put the absolute bare minimum of effort into everything they’ve done with AI.

    The only advantage they have is customer lock-in. Historically, that’s usually enough for them. I hope it’s not this time.

    Eventually Microsoft will probably buy a company with people who know what the fuck they’re doing. I think that’s their only way forward because it looks like the brain drain has finally caught up with them.

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      1 hour ago

      Well, no. Microsoft has good products, to me specially in development area. That said I moved away from Windows and office as well, because of the crap they are putting into them.

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      Microsoft has nothing worth using.

      Mostly agree. However, Excel remains the exception. I refuse to buy/subscribe to whatever subscription they are currently peddling, but I do consider my stand alone Excel license to be worth it. And if the next version of Excel is still offered as a stand alone perpetual license and does not force AI, I’ll buy that too.

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        I feel like Google sheets is a better experience than Excel, at least for my personal usage. I’m not enterprise though, and not trying to run it like a database or anything crazy.

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          If I’m using it in browser, sure. But as a standalone application, no comparison IMO.

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            I’ve tried both. I think part of it is friction from little behaviors that I expect to be like Google sheets but aren’t. I don’t even know what they are until I hit some keys and excel does the “wrong” (but probably reasonable) thing.

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              I have the reverse, I am so used to Excel from work that using Google sheets can be really annoying.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah, I meant for AI stuff specifically. Their main products are…well I wouldn’t say “good” but they successfully choked out all competition in the 90s so…

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      Not fair!

      Microsoft has made a lot worth talking about in the last few years.

      You just have to talk it in the same way you would talk about touching the tip of a soldering iron.

      To Microsoft’s credit, phi3/4 were both pretty good models for their size, for a brief period before they were comely outclassed.