• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    As I explained, I’m not at all on the same page with Carlson and Bannon. Their desire to dump Ukraine onto the EU to insteas focus on Latin America and then Asia isn’t the same as opposing western imperialism. I can articulate why they hold their views and why I hold mine.

    Here’s a full report by a western org that talks about "surprising progress with daunting obstacles. The younger generation is pro-LGBTQIA+, the older is anti. Over time this is resulting in gradual change for the better with each passing generation.

    I actually haven’t looked into LGBTQIA+ rights in the DPRK. They’re notoriously terrible in the ROK, as are women’s rights, so I’d expect the DPRK to fare a bit better but I haven’t actually looked into that much.

    Tibet is an autonomous zone that is within the broder PRC. It isn’t distinct from China, nor is it wholly the same. Tibet within the PRC has seen rapid development and dramatic progress once moving beyond feudalism into socialism. The fact that Tibet is developing and extreme poverty is eradicated there isn’t a point against China, but for it. You have a Fox News style understanding of China while you live in an actually imperialist country like Italy.

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      Directly cited from the report you presented:

      According to Li Minyan, a Chinese LGBT advocate and law student at Northwestern University, social pressure to marry someone of the opposite sex is overwhelming, and many LGBT individuals do so and lead a double life. Others enter into marriages of convenience where lesbians and gay men marry each other to escape this pressure. Despite this outward tolerance, a report about the situation facing LGBT people and civil society in China issued by the United Nations and the U.S. government last year flagged a host of serious problems. Chinese LGBT people lack legal protections from discrimination at work and in housing, there is no recognition accorded to same-sex couples, LGBT individuals cannot adopt children, same-sex rape is not a criminal offense and stigma and discrimination are rampant.

      Look into the situation with the RPK and then return to me to present your findings, I’m sure homosexual people are living their best lives alongside Kim.

      The “development” of Tibet has been mainly enjoyed by the Han people who flicked into the region after its conquest by China. Original Tibetans are still living in the same economical conditions as 100 years ago but in an even worse society as they are seen as “inferior” because they are not of Han origin. But this behaviour is not the behaviour of an imperialist country in your eyes, so everything is fine and don’t question authorities

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        As I said regarding LGBTQIA+ rights, they are improving. History isn’t a series of static snapshots, but instead an unfolding process. The report itself also cites the surprising progress as compared to the older PRC, and especially compared to being under Japanese colonialism and the KMT.

        As for the DPRK and the LGBTQIA+ community, it’s a bit difficult to learn but from what I can see it seems to be legal. May not be legally protected, but not illegal.

        As for your comment on Tibet, it’s full of shit. Tibetans are living far greater lives than when they were literally tortured slaves en masse, and there isn’t Han supremacy. This is more Fox News far-right Neo-Nazi conspiracy shit that you continue to peddle, fascist that you admitted to being.

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          I wonder why it is so difficult to find information about any issue in the DPRK, such a paradise on earth should be more open to disclose its inner working to the world… It’s very strange if someone think about it for more than 20 seconds, but this doesn’t seem to be a concern of your it would seem.

          So if the Chinese bar Tibetans from speaking their language and living their lives according to their customs while also forcing their youth to attend sino-centric schools is progress, but if Ukraine ask its russian citizens ti use Ukrainian as a language when talking with the state is ethnic cleansing. Got it

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            The DPRK publishes English news and has visitors from Cuba, Russia, China, and more, so we can get a good idea of how things are there. I just haven’t researched their LGBTQIA+ rights yet, and the west pretty much purely lies about it. It’s no paradise, but it does well considering their situation.

            China does not bar Tibetans from speaking their language and living their lives according to their customs. Tibet is a part of China, and as such is integrated into the PRC, but there is not ethnic suppression. Further, Ukraine is governed by Neo-Nazis that were slaughtering people in the Donbass, not just language suppression.

            More Fox News garbage from yourself.

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              Also, you keep talking about slaughter in Ukraine even if I already shown you that under 10 people per year were casualties of the internal war brought forward by the little green men paid by the Kremlin. You are still avoiding this fact and continue to press the button of ethnic cleansing even if there are no wires attached to it as if it were your Linus blanket. Grow up and face the facts, please

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                The war was brought about by the west couping Kiev and replacing the government with Neo-Nazis, which you happen to love. Further, again, the shelling had actually escalated prior to Russia getting involved, confirmed by OSCE. Kiev had ammassed an invasion force into Donetsk and Luhansk, dramatically increased shelling, and then days later Russia intervened.

                Face the facts, please, and drop the unfounded ageism.

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                  Wouldn’t you know, the link to the supposed OCSE report in reality opens a blog page from an uncredited source which does not contain itself any reference to the report you cited. Talk about sources and facts, eh?

                  Moreover, how many of the victims of this pre-war conflicts were caused by the little green men paid by the Kremlin? I guess you haven’t asked yourself this question as it might clash with the alternative reality you live in to justify the russian invasion of Ukraine. Invasion that was not going to happen if we had listened to the russian who ammassed an invading force on Ukraine borders shortly before February 2022 but who then went on for weeks to reiterate that these troops and vehicles were there just for exercising and would habe never been used to invade Ukraine. There are some truth tellers among the russians, that’s for sure

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                    Have a Reuters link and a link to OSCE itself. Toss in Human Rights Watch for good measure. Plenty of good sources.

                    You keep pretending the “little green men” are more important than the literal Neo-Nazis that committed the Maidan massacre and were ethnically cleansing Russians. Had NATO and Kiev not dramatically increased shelling and ammassed an invasion force in Donetsk and Luhansk, the DPR and LPR would not have requested Russian assistance and voted to join the Russian Federation. You’re siding with literal neo-Nazis.

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              Lmao, trusting the report coming from Russia and China about how is fairing the north Korean society is wild. Why don’t they accept people from other parts of the world and why, when someone can access their state, this person is not allowed to interact with people without having policemen around? Must be because they have nothing to hide, for sure. If you’re interested I’ve got a bridge to sell you XD

              So the forced movement of people from the Tibetan countryside to the inner cities has no bearing on their way of life, which was a nomadic one? How is integration carried out when a custom directly contradicts the mandates from the party?

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                Yes, I do trust Russia and China more than the west when it comes to reporting on the DPRK, because they actually go there and don’t report nonsense claims about life there. The DPRK does accept people, it’s largely western countries preventing their own people from visiting. Again, keep up your chauvanism.

                The people of Tibet were not forced to inner cities. Tibet is developing beyond their nomadic mode of production, which leads to more city population and fewer nomads.

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                    The DPRK has a tourism industry, they want people to go. I can’t, as a US citizen the US Empire prevents me from going. They are understandably cautious considering the US Empire committed genocide against them, and NATO has sanctioned them into oblivion.

                    Tibetans are free to live as they wish, that’s why many are going to the cities for work. Not everyone wants to be a nomad.