Block early and often is practically the motto of Lemmy. Many people got banned from Reddit for a reason, and then they all came here. People with a conscience also came here too, but there’s definitely a lot of noise amidst the signal.
And moderation tools here suck, so it’s much less regulated overall, which is somewhat a good thing but then people don’t want to discuss the bad side where people straight-up leave here as a result, as evidenced by e.g. the Monthly Active User counts in decline and also comments in spaces such as r/RedditAlternatives.
I think people leave because of the lack of niche communities.
That is also true:-). What they say for themselves is (1) tankies, (2) toxicity, (3) too confusing (this must be Lemmy bc PieFed’s sign up wizard is outstanding), and (4) yeah, lack of content.
I haven’t moderated a community on PieFed, but in addition to what Skavau said, PieFed has many tools that alleviate the need for moderation in the first place, like keyword filtering (you wouldn’t need to make a community rule to reduce the amount of Musk or Trump content when users can filter that out on their own without needing a mod to do it for them) and user icons (next to e.g. highly contentious users with >10-fold more downvotes than upvotes, so you better know what you are getting into if you choose to respond).
For me it is personally what keeps me still on reddit.
I love lemmy/piefed for the awesome people, but really feel the lack of niche content.
I want to start my own communities on lemmy, but it is just so hard to keep it going. I don’t have the energy for that. Living life is difficult as it is already. And I don’t want to see my community die.
Also Reddit bans you from upvoting and participating, but you still get personalized ads even after you get banned. LOL
There are whole entire huge events that happen in the world that when I search the Threadiverse find no matches to those keywords, as if it did not occur or at least it went unacknowledged by this community. So not even just lack of “niche” content, but lack of content beyond tankie and/or USA politics and Linux v. Windoze.
Communities there are like “<insert name of game here, global version, community #2>”, while here it be like… “games”. Same for the vast majority of movies or TV shows.
However, I completely get it - this is a toxic bunch, and I for one have stopped recommending Lemmy to people IRL. I don’t want to lose friendships over them coming here, seeing how we can be (without SUBSTANTIAL amounts of blocking), and then noping out, thinking I am one of “them”.
We need the content, I am agreeing with you, but we will never get it because we chase everyone away by being too toxic. I am putting my hopes now not into Lemmy anymore but into PieFed, and in particular better moderation tools that could potentially save the Threadiverse from perpetually remaining in obscurity. Though it still needs quite a bit of polish first imho.
Otherwise it’s about on-par at a community moderation level. It has a few other things but they don’t present as viewed from Lemmy, mitigating their utility at the moment.
I’ve gotten suspended from Reddit for hurting fascist’s feelings, most recently because I said what I wished had happened to the leaders of the confederacy.
Reddit will let blatant hate speech and active calls for violence against minorities stand as “not violating any rules” and the only reason any of the subreddits aren’t overran by that crap is the individual subreddit mods remove comments and ban people, but that only goes so far as they are all unpaid volunteers.
The kind of people that do get banned by Reddit for being bigots have to say stuff that would actually get them in legal trouble, and usually those are the ones that are actively threatening specific people all the time because they think death threats are an effective debate tactic when they don’t know what they are talking about, and they never know what they are talking about.
Those people end up being a special kind of asshole so when they come to Lemmy they end up doing the same, but with federation they tend to endup more on the openly fascist instances that most sane instances don’t federate with.
I received a “promoting violence violation” on reddit for referencing “Surviving The Game” and other tropes of where rich, white, affluent assholes hunt human for sport.
Block early and often is practically the motto of Lemmy. Many people got banned from Reddit for a reason, and then they all came here. People with a conscience also came here too, but there’s definitely a lot of noise amidst the signal.
And moderation tools here suck, so it’s much less regulated overall, which is somewhat a good thing but then people don’t want to discuss the bad side where people straight-up leave here as a result, as evidenced by e.g. the Monthly Active User counts in decline and also comments in spaces such as r/RedditAlternatives.
I think people leave because of the lack of niche communities.
Reddit niche communities are like crack. None of the fandom communities are active here.
Does piefed have good moderation tools?
That is also true:-). What they say for themselves is (1) tankies, (2) toxicity, (3) too confusing (this must be Lemmy bc PieFed’s sign up wizard is outstanding), and (4) yeah, lack of content.
I haven’t moderated a community on PieFed, but in addition to what Skavau said, PieFed has many tools that alleviate the need for moderation in the first place, like keyword filtering (you wouldn’t need to make a community rule to reduce the amount of Musk or Trump content when users can filter that out on their own without needing a mod to do it for them) and user icons (next to e.g. highly contentious users with >10-fold more downvotes than upvotes, so you better know what you are getting into if you choose to respond).
For me it is personally what keeps me still on reddit.
I love lemmy/piefed for the awesome people, but really feel the lack of niche content.
I want to start my own communities on lemmy, but it is just so hard to keep it going. I don’t have the energy for that. Living life is difficult as it is already. And I don’t want to see my community die.
Also Reddit bans you from upvoting and participating, but you still get personalized ads even after you get banned. LOL
There are whole entire huge events that happen in the world that when I search the Threadiverse find no matches to those keywords, as if it did not occur or at least it went unacknowledged by this community. So not even just lack of “niche” content, but lack of content beyond tankie and/or USA politics and Linux v. Windoze.
Communities there are like “<insert name of game here, global version, community #2>”, while here it be like… “games”. Same for the vast majority of movies or TV shows.
However, I completely get it - this is a toxic bunch, and I for one have stopped recommending Lemmy to people IRL. I don’t want to lose friendships over them coming here, seeing how we can be (without SUBSTANTIAL amounts of blocking), and then noping out, thinking I am one of “them”.
We need the content, I am agreeing with you, but we will never get it because we chase everyone away by being too toxic. I am putting my hopes now not into Lemmy anymore but into PieFed, and in particular better moderation tools that could potentially save the Threadiverse from perpetually remaining in obscurity. Though it still needs quite a bit of polish first imho.
From an instance admins perspective, yes.
Otherwise it’s about on-par at a community moderation level. It has a few other things but they don’t present as viewed from Lemmy, mitigating their utility at the moment.
I’ve gotten suspended from Reddit for hurting fascist’s feelings, most recently because I said what I wished had happened to the leaders of the confederacy.
Reddit will let blatant hate speech and active calls for violence against minorities stand as “not violating any rules” and the only reason any of the subreddits aren’t overran by that crap is the individual subreddit mods remove comments and ban people, but that only goes so far as they are all unpaid volunteers.
The kind of people that do get banned by Reddit for being bigots have to say stuff that would actually get them in legal trouble, and usually those are the ones that are actively threatening specific people all the time because they think death threats are an effective debate tactic when they don’t know what they are talking about, and they never know what they are talking about.
Those people end up being a special kind of asshole so when they come to Lemmy they end up doing the same, but with federation they tend to endup more on the openly fascist instances that most sane instances don’t federate with.
I received a “promoting violence violation” on reddit for referencing “Surviving The Game” and other tropes of where rich, white, affluent assholes hunt human for sport.