I read an old thread documenting the opinions of Lemmy maintainers an the .ml instance. The issue of funding a project with people openly expressing opinions many find distasteful and it being the biggest reddit alternative on the fediverse came up, so here’s a topic to discuss it.

What should we do? What are the options?


Answer: No fork necessary, there are Piefed and Mbin.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The Lemmy platform is just a tool to manage and delivery content. And I think it’s important to differentiate the software from those who manages the software. I can see there’s is a tacit connection and influence there. But unless they start baking inherently bias features into the software and skewing it, I don’t think it’s a big problem.

    Also, because it’s an inherently federated platform, if people don’t like the opinions of those who run a specific instance, they can (with the inclination and determination) spin up their own instance and manage that the way they see fit. And that has happened quite a few times over the last couple of years.

    So no, I don’t think it requires a fork really. Not unless the people managing the main branch lose interest and the software starts to wither on the vine, or they start corrupting it somehow. But that’s just my opinion.

    • AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      1 day ago

      I disagree. You are right that through federation and open source you can create your instance if another instance is a nazi bar. But now you open your new bar. Should you buy chairs from the nazis for your bar? Is it not a problem if the nazis are the only ones producing chairs?

      That is to me the analogy with lemmy. Yes I don’t have to be on .ml. But I don’t want to sit on the transphobic, genocide denier built chair either.

      Technology and society don’t exist in separate spheres and we should always consider them together.

      So go with piefed if you can. I haven’t had any complaints since I switched :)

      • IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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        16 hours ago

        In this nazi analogy it would be less of buying chairs and more the nazis giving away chairs for free that come with blueprints so if the nazis started installing spikes in their chairs people can just build their own from the blueprints, they just choose not to because it’s a lot of work. Which is fine if you don’t want those chairs, but a lot of people are fine with those chairs as long as the nazis don’t start any camps.