• muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    OK Marx sure. So what do u replace it with? Someone has to “own” ie control all the things and if u just hand it all over to some entity “the state” you have just reinvented aristocracy.

    • SteelEmpire@anarchist.nexus
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      19 hours ago

      Someone has to “own” ie control all the things

      That’s an extremely silly statement. Do you really believe in a single global landlord that owns everything that everyone else must pay rent to? If one person owns everything like you say, you just destroyed private ownership.

      You managed to accuse me of being both Marx and a monarchist all while you call to end any private ownership in just one post.

      • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        That is possibly the worst faith interpretation of my statement. Everything is owned by someone not necessarily the same someone. For instance I own and am thus responsible for my property, someone else is responsible for their property hence everything is owned by someone.

        What’s the functional difference between communism and a monarchy? In both cased all property is owned by “the state” and can exercise control over that property however they please. Democracy doesn’t work cos the people have no control of any property and thus are completely beholden to the state. Good luck protesting against the government when you have no food, water, means to communicate, and travel. What are u gonna do about the inevitable authoritarian takeover? Die?

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            5 hours ago

            No it’s not. Even animals fight over territory and property. There are cases of them sharing, yes, but they’re not the absolute norm.

            • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              36 minutes ago

              animals don’t own anything. there is nothing an animal can have that you can’t rightfully take from them.

          • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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            6 hours ago

            Ownership is simply the word we use to describe the person who ultimately controls and is thus responsible for any particularly thing. Please describe a system in ownership isn’t a thing. The only one I can think of is anarchy until someone finds a gun and announces that everything now belongs to them and that their is nothing u can do about it

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              34 minutes ago

              anarchy until someone finds a gun and announces that everything now belongs to them and that their is nothing u can do about it

              it is anarchy. your gunman is a despot, and is not part of anarchism.