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    10 hours ago

    What are you trying yo argue here, because I’m unsure? That the Russia doesn’t have propaganda in the West?

    But the links you posted does not confirm that, e.g.

    Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters

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      6 hours ago

      For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

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        5 hours ago

        So you’re argument is that Russia is bad at making propaganda, underfunds propaganda or that USA propaganda is worse?

        That’s, uh, rather weak argument.

        And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

        That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one?

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          And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

          That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one?

          Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house.

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            4 hours ago

            Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world

            Literally the link you posted contradicts it

            Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters

            I feel like we’re going in circles. Happy New Year!