Weight Comparison

Model Weight (grams) Screen Size
LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) 1,199 16-inch
MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) 1,510 15-inch
MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) 1,550-1,600 14-inch
MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) 2,140-2,200 16-inch
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    3 days ago

    FYI, Ryzen 9 270 is last gen, anyways:

    Here’s a nice link to the passmark forum. You can clearly see a deranged Apple fanboy that has difficulty grasping anecdote is not the singular of data.

    Back on topic:

    The M4 air lets you run console and a bunch of daily tasks well enough, however, it really isn’t a work machine. It’s an iPad pro with a keyboard. Apple has troves of data on what the people who buy their HW do so they adapt fixed function for HW acceleration as needed. The single threaded benches are also wildly misleading as if you try to edit music on an Air you’ll be pulling your hair out due to latency on the “best single threaded portable CPU” due to thermal constraints (and yes, I know RTINGS recommends Apple for music production, sadly, they don’t really test latency propper, especially for music production). Run Izotope Ozone 10 with some oversampling and curse your life for going with Apple. Oh, and if you want to do anything remotely useful, get ready to shell out some extra money for RAM and storage that brings the price of the air up to par with the G14…

    Apple laptops are Veblen goods, the battery life is great, when using popular software it works well (Adobe 🤮🤮🤢🤮🤮) but even Apple finds the M4 so underwhelming it had to compare it to the M1 instead of M3.

    Given its age, the 5900HS has no place being as competitve with the M4 10core as it is, and yet, here we are.

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      3 days ago

      The Ryzen 9 270 is what’s currently in the G14 much like the M4 is last gen but it’s what’s currently in the Air.

      Apple compares the M4 to the M1 because the M1 is so good most M1 users don’t see a reason to upgrade yet unless they have the 8 GB model. I’m not even joking. People are still debating whether to upgrade from the M1 to the M5. Apple Silicon made their laptops so good there was no longer need to upgrade every 5 years like with Intel in the past.

      I think you just have a chip on your shoulder. If you’re looking for a work machine, why are we talking about the cheap base model CPU? You should be comparing to the M1 Pro. Not the Max, since that’s more expensive, but the Pro is an apt comparison.

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        3 days ago

        The Ryzen 9 270 is what’s currently in the G14

        That’s for the cheaper GA403U models, the GA403W models have the 370.

        Apple compared the M4 with the M1 because the M3 beats the M4 in several scenarios, especially in comparable SKUs where the M4 downgrades memory bandwidth. Now, of course, I could be a fanboy and preach that it’s because the M1 is so good.

        I think you need this since you start resorting to ad hominem.

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          2 days ago

          So for comparing to Apple, I shouldn’t be using the model that’s only 1000 euros more expensive than Apple, but rather one that’s even more expensive than that?

          I think you can see where the comparison falls apart then.

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              2 days ago

              You can get an M1 Air for like 300 used. For 800 you should be able to get an M3 with warranty. Either one is a faster CPU than the 5900HS in single threaded perf and the M3 is faster in multi as well.

              I just don’t see the value proposition of the G14. But that’s because I have a desktop so the GPU on a laptop is useless for me. Like I said in a previous comment, economics change if you have use for a GPU.