I think French people have many more social safety nets to support them and that their police is not even remotely as violent as ours.
As for going across the country, that is directly addressed, France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.
I don’t actually really care about all the morons responding negatively to the copy/paste, I’m going to keep posting it. Europeans simply have it so much better than we do that they are completely unable to fathom that it’s so different in the US, which I would say is great, if so many of them weren’t such fucking cunts that believe themselves inherently superior by factor of country of birth that they feel the need to be so hateful online towards the people who are suffering from all of this, far, far worse than they are. They confidently demand violence and blood with zero comprehension of any nuance about the situation, understanding that not everyone fucking lives in or can get to Minneapolis on a days notice to kill ice agents or whatever.
Hundreds of people lost eyes, hands, legs and arms to flashballs and grenades during the yellow vests protests. A few were even killed. And there is no count of how many were wounded not that gravely.
When people don’t have money to go on strikes we organize caisses de grèves which are funds collected by unions to be given to the strikers, from people who have more money or cannot strike themselves.
Our ancestors died under live round fire to win the protections we have now, and we’re fighting to keep them every year. If you never start you’ll never have anything.
Iranians are currently protesting nationwide to overthrow the fuckers on top, a lot of them have died or have been thrown in jail without due process or anything.
When the Ukrainians revolted against the russian-backed regime, a lot of them died too.
Fighting for your rights is always risking something. If you don’t do it now, countless more citizens of the US and other countries will die or lose everything. It’s already happening en masse with ICE targeting people of color. It will only get worse from there.
As for going across the country, that is directly addressed, France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.
My point is that french people don’t travel to protests, they’re local events by and large. You don’t need to travel far away to participate. You don’t need to go to Minnesota to protest ICE killing people.
I’ll skip the part where you’re acting like a xenophobic asshole, I choose to believe you are only upset about the situation, and simply wish you best of luck in your struggles.
their police is not even remotely as violent as ours.
Just for your sake: the current administration in France considers you can’t complain if you lose a hand or an eye or end up in a coma if you’re present in a non-authorized protest, even if you’re not remotely violent. The protest ban can be a piece of paper displayed on a door in front of an admin building AFTER the protest started.
And still, there are protests, and protesters still defy bans.
So yes, for sure, US police kills way more people than the French one. But protesting in France is not as safe as you may think.
France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.
True, but beyond a certain scale, it doesn’t matter. You can’t just make a few phone calls and organize a general strike. And US can totally manage its scale by the way: you had simultaneous protests in many large cities.
The main difference is probably the organization body: France has country wide unions. Unions are not based on work sector, they are representing more political positioning. So if the “base” is willing, union leaders can propose strikes, and if it’s a national political matter, it can become a general strike.
But just like you had massive protests, you can have general strikes.
Europeans simply have it so much better than we do that they are completely unable to fathom that it’s so different in the US
“Europeans” are not a single homogenous body, and “have it better” does not mean much. Since you were talking about France: 10% of the population depends on food banks. 30% cannot afford 3 meals a day. 40% struggles with their bills. I don’t know the numbers in the US, but they would vary state by state and then city by city and by ethnicity, etc. … just like they do in France.
So some Europeans have it better than some US folks… and vice-versa. What matters at the end is who can do what and do these people have the will to act?
if so many of them weren’t such fucking cunts that believe themselves inherently superior by factor of country of birth
I’m pretty sure I read very similar comments about Americans believing strongly in their exceptionalism… Again: no country has that level of homogeneous thinking…
They confidently demand violence and blood with zero comprehension of any nuance about the situation, understanding that not everyone fucking lives in or can get to Minneapolis on a days notice to kill ice agents or whatever.
You stand exactly 0 chance to win a civil war if you’re in the rebel side anyway.
Gereral strikes is what make governments fall outside of elections. And it’s very painful for all. The question is: more painful than what’s to come?
I think French people have many more social safety nets to support them and that their police is not even remotely as violent as ours.
As for going across the country, that is directly addressed, France is very small compared to the entirety of the US.
I don’t actually really care about all the morons responding negatively to the copy/paste, I’m going to keep posting it. Europeans simply have it so much better than we do that they are completely unable to fathom that it’s so different in the US, which I would say is great, if so many of them weren’t such fucking cunts that believe themselves inherently superior by factor of country of birth that they feel the need to be so hateful online towards the people who are suffering from all of this, far, far worse than they are. They confidently demand violence and blood with zero comprehension of any nuance about the situation, understanding that not everyone fucking lives in or can get to Minneapolis on a days notice to kill ice agents or whatever.
Hundreds of people lost eyes, hands, legs and arms to flashballs and grenades during the yellow vests protests. A few were even killed. And there is no count of how many were wounded not that gravely.
When people don’t have money to go on strikes we organize caisses de grèves which are funds collected by unions to be given to the strikers, from people who have more money or cannot strike themselves.
Our ancestors died under live round fire to win the protections we have now, and we’re fighting to keep them every year. If you never start you’ll never have anything.
Iranians are currently protesting nationwide to overthrow the fuckers on top, a lot of them have died or have been thrown in jail without due process or anything.
When the Ukrainians revolted against the russian-backed regime, a lot of them died too.
Fighting for your rights is always risking something. If you don’t do it now, countless more citizens of the US and other countries will die or lose everything. It’s already happening en masse with ICE targeting people of color. It will only get worse from there.
The revolution will not be paid hourly. The revolution will not come with a salary.
I’d tshirt that.
My point is that french people don’t travel to protests, they’re local events by and large. You don’t need to travel far away to participate. You don’t need to go to Minnesota to protest ICE killing people.
I’ll skip the part where you’re acting like a xenophobic asshole, I choose to believe you are only upset about the situation, and simply wish you best of luck in your struggles.
Just for your sake: the current administration in France considers you can’t complain if you lose a hand or an eye or end up in a coma if you’re present in a non-authorized protest, even if you’re not remotely violent. The protest ban can be a piece of paper displayed on a door in front of an admin building AFTER the protest started.
And still, there are protests, and protesters still defy bans.
So yes, for sure, US police kills way more people than the French one. But protesting in France is not as safe as you may think.
True, but beyond a certain scale, it doesn’t matter. You can’t just make a few phone calls and organize a general strike. And US can totally manage its scale by the way: you had simultaneous protests in many large cities.
The main difference is probably the organization body: France has country wide unions. Unions are not based on work sector, they are representing more political positioning. So if the “base” is willing, union leaders can propose strikes, and if it’s a national political matter, it can become a general strike.
But just like you had massive protests, you can have general strikes.
“Europeans” are not a single homogenous body, and “have it better” does not mean much. Since you were talking about France: 10% of the population depends on food banks. 30% cannot afford 3 meals a day. 40% struggles with their bills. I don’t know the numbers in the US, but they would vary state by state and then city by city and by ethnicity, etc. … just like they do in France. So some Europeans have it better than some US folks… and vice-versa. What matters at the end is who can do what and do these people have the will to act?
I’m pretty sure I read very similar comments about Americans believing strongly in their exceptionalism… Again: no country has that level of homogeneous thinking…
You stand exactly 0 chance to win a civil war if you’re in the rebel side anyway. Gereral strikes is what make governments fall outside of elections. And it’s very painful for all. The question is: more painful than what’s to come?
You mean all the victims of US’s foreign policy in the last decades?
I agree.